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Old 10-21-2010, 07:34 AM
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Ok Tom,

Took the test:

You scored 60 % Correct

Most correctly identified : Pro Tools mix with HEAT (5 out of 5)

In Section 5 You Preferred the "Pro Tools mix with HEAT", 206 People have taken the test to date and 69 % answered A/B said They were not sure - It was Pretty hard.


Well... it looks like I have to buy HEAT... But I just bought VCC...
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:39 AM
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66% and PT with heat 4 of 5 correct. It seems it has a sound...
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:11 PM
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Tom,

What setting did you guys have on HEAT (Drive & Tone) ?
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:02 PM
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I believe the setting we ended up on was Drive at about 10 o'clock and Tone at around 2:00 o'clock. An interesting thing was, we settled on using HEAT on the source channels and on the Audio Stems that they were feeding as well. In essence, double HEAT. We felt that this was appropriate because if you were doing the Stem thing either to tape or back into the console, you were getting double the 'effect' of the tape or console.
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I just checked, as of right now :

288 People have taken the test to date and 68 % answered A/B said They were not sure - It was Pretty hard.

The Current Average Score is 30 % Correct.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:36 PM
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I just checked, as of right now :

288 People have taken the test to date and 68 % answered A/B said They were not sure - It was Pretty hard.

The Current Average Score is 30 % Correct.
Yea!!

My fav setting it DRIVE 9 o'clock and TONE 1 o'clock.
I set this up before starting my mix and then I often crank the output of the EQ of my individual tracks to get some of that HEAT distortion, especially on overheads and kick and snare!

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Default Re: HEAT, NEVE 8048 Listening Challenge

Wouldnt it be better to ask "pick the best sounding A, B or C. " for each section Since without a point of reference its hard to have any idea how you have heat set. Are you making it Brighter , Darker etc...

This isnt really a good test to figure out which is the best sounding since you spend the whole time trying to guess which each one must be rather than just focusing on picking the best sounding mix.

They clearly sound different and better and worse but that doesnt necessarily translate into identifying what each one must be.

Also the mix files are very low quality... is this a low rate Mp3? Is it possible to get a fuller sounding mix to compare?

This is a great idea tho...
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:30 AM
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You scored 60 % Correct

Most correctly identified : Pro Tools mix with HEAT (4 out of 5)

In Section 5 You Preferred the "Neve summed Pro Tools mix", 377 People have taken the test to date and 64 % answered A/B said They were not sure - It was Pretty hard.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:34 AM
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You scored 60 % Correct

Most correctly identified : Pro Tools mix with HEAT (4 out of 5)

In Section 5 You Preferred the "Neve summed Pro Tools mix", 377 People have taken the test to date and 64 % answered A/B said They were not sure - It was Pretty hard.
I think we are getting these kind of similar results because HEAT mixes have slightly more top end = better
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:20 AM
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Wouldnt it be better to ask "pick the best sounding A, B or C. " for each section Since without a point of reference its hard to have any idea how you have heat set. Are you making it Brighter , Darker etc...

This isnt really a good test to figure out which is the best sounding since you spend the whole time trying to guess which each one must be rather than just focusing on picking the best sounding mix.

They clearly sound different and better and worse but that doesnt necessarily translate into identifying what each one must be.

Also the mix files are very low quality... is this a low rate Mp3? Is it possible to get a fuller sounding mix to compare?

This is a great idea tho...
The mixes you downloaded are dithered 48k 16 Bit files. There really is no easy way to make a 96k 24 Bit Video QuickTime file, I tried to. 48k 16 Bit is not much different than any other CD, except these are not mastered versions.

The point of the test really is, they are all cool and close. If the NEVE (Analogued Summing) mix was hands down better, it would be obvious for people to hear and they would pick that mix as their favorite. To me, the average score of 30% means people can't really hear the difference, it's slightly less than 33% if you randomly pick 3.

If anyone in Los Angeles wants to schedule a time to hear the full 24/96k mixes, I'm sure we could set up a time in our Burbank office... Email me after AES.

Also - I will try to bring the files to the AES show in San Fran.

Thanks guys!
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