Problems with bus sends.

[BenGra]

Has anyone had this problem?

I have my drum overheads on a stereo channel. This has some effects on it.

I create a stereo AUX channel, make the input Bus 1-2.
I put a send on my drum overhead channel to Bus 1-2.

I set that send to PRE, and unity gain.

When I solo the new AUX channel, I hear all the effects that are on the drum overhead channel, rather than clean audio !?

I've just upgraded to PT8, this didn't used to happen in PT7.1.

In PT7.1, the AUX channel would be clean audio, with none of the effects from the original on.

Any ideas ?!?

[albee1952]

A little more info might help here. You say you send(via AUX send) to an AUX track....so what is the purpose of the AUX track? Does it have some effect plugin inserted? Are you aware of the Solo-safe function? on any track(all types except Master) you can Ctrl-click on the solo button to "solo-safe" that track. So now, whenever you solo any track, the solo-safed tracks continue to be heard(I usually solo-safe my reverb and delay tracks).

Okay, I re-read your post and I think I have it now. You have effects on your overhead tracks and you are using a pre-fader send so you have dry sound coming from your AUX track? I would change your procedure a bit here. Leave the overhead track dry, send(with a POST-fader send) to your stereo AUX track and insert the effect on the AUX track. Now the original overhead track is dry, and your AUX track is wet(reverbs should be run this way and at 100% wet for 95% of normal mixing). Of course, there ARE reasons to do it otherwise, but for traditional mixing, one would generally put the effects on an AUX track and send as I described in this second part of my reply. Play around with both variants and I think you will feel smarter afterwards.

[Keybeeetsss]

Yeah the way ur doin that is a bit odd; not sure why u would do it that way unless its on eq & compression; if its more than that, e.g. Pre-Delay or Verb|Room, that u should want on the Aux...

Nevertheless, I'm not sure why ur hearing the effects only tho when u solo...

[BenGra]

Hi guys,

Yeah I know it's not the best way to do it - but it's an example more than anything. I don't usually put my reverbs on like this, I do it the way you've outlined.

But the question still remains - is the send from a channel supposed to include whatever plugins are on that channel? I thought it sent raw audio, without any plugs on it.

I came across this when I wanted to do some parallel compression. I noticed the AUX track, that I was going to put the heavy compression on, was playing the effects that the original track had on, rather than a dry/raw signal.

What is your experience in this situation? Does a 'sent' signal have the effects on it?

I swear PT7.1 didn't ?!

Cheers

[lcsper]

I think when you hit PRE on the sends that just means its Pre-fader, meaning it will take the signal before it hits the fader and send it, with all the processing done on that signal.