Relinking/conforming surround channels after a re-edit?

[jseelye02]

Hey all, a client did a TV cutdown of a film we mixed using our dia/arch/fx/mus 5.1 stem files, essentially going from 100min to 90min.

In doing so, they dropped the surround and LFE files and only edited with the LCR from each stem.

Is there an easy, non-edl way of resyncing the LsRsLfe files? I thought for sure FIELD RECORDER fun would do the trick, but it's not working correctly (it ends up trying to relink a bunch of wrong clips and tracks, even if the search criteria is limited to just ONE other file).

Any thoughts?

[Ryan Young]

Easiest way, if the metadata was preserved, is to show timecode in the clip to make manual conforming much easier.

[jseelye02]

For sure, but they made hundreds of cuts, so a manual conform is the last thing we want to do, haha.

[its2loud]

Field recorder method should work. Just use TC as your only match criteria and select a folder with only the files you need.

[quadraphonics]

I/We do this very thing all of the time.

To do it we use a combination of EdiLoad and PT Field Recorder guide tracks.

We embed the 5.1 stems with metadata and reconform from an EDL given to us from Video. We use EdiLoad to create tracks from the EDL that we can conform against and the add the metatdata into the clips (we generate this auto-magically from the clip name)

I can go further into this, but this is how I would do this. Matching by time code is an option, but I find that the result when there are multiple stems requires too much manual clean up .

Randall

Originally Posted by jseelye02

Hey all, a client did a TV cutdown of a film we mixed using our dia/arch/fx/mus 5.1 stem files, essentially going from 100min to 90min.

In doing so, they dropped the surround and LFE files and only edited with the LCR from each stem.

Is there an easy, non-edl way of resyncing the LsRsLfe files? I thought for sure FIELD RECORDER fun would do the trick, but it's not working correctly (it ends up trying to relink a bunch of wrong clips and tracks, even if the search criteria is limited to just ONE other file).

Any thoughts?

[jseelye02]

Thanks all.

And Randall, you're right about the TC matching - it sorta works but there's so much manual work to do after the fact.

We don't have EdiLoad but the quick looking around I did yesterday lead me to that every time, probably time to get into it.

[quadraphonics]

You might not need EDiLoad..

You need to make sure that the Roll name in the video clips matches the Tape number/name in the wav files.

I use Wave Agent (Free) to add metadata to the Audio Stems.

EdiLoad just makes this process easier.

Randall

Originally Posted by jseelye02

Thanks all.

And Randall, you're right about the TC matching - it sorta works but there's so much manual work to do after the fact.

We don't have EdiLoad but the quick looking around I did yesterday lead me to that every time, probably time to get into it.

[jseelye02]

Oh, that's interesting actually, never thought to embed my own metadata for the field criteria to grab onto.

Thanks for that!

[TVPostSound]

Just a thought.

If they did hundreds of cuts, you're better off re- laying the music from the original stems. That music is now useless anyway.
With automation follows edit turned off, and recut the music the right way.

[jseelye02]

Totally agree!

And in fact, in the meantime, I've had the AE create EDLs for each stem (since they were all cut differently) for use in Conformalizer... I think that'll end up working fine after a quick test run.

Thanks all!