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Old 08-11-2019, 11:25 AM
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Are you able to determine that from the iSat app ?
The reason I ask is because that being the case I am now wondering if the extra fan noise may be the bottom of crest card resting on/touching the top of the Sapphire RX580 fan housing as it seemed pretty tight when I put the Crest in
That could be the problem (or part of it) which would be related to what I wrote earlier. You get things touching each other when they shouldn't (coupling) and you can get all manner of vibrations and sound happening that shouldn't.


It's for things like this I made up a bunch of decoupling rack mounts for all my rack gear. Isolates the gear from the rack and each other. Not perfect but a hell of a lot quieter.
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Are you able to determine that from the iSat app ?
The reason I ask is because that being the case I am now wondering if the extra fan noise may be the bottom of crest card resting on/touching the top of the Sapphire RX580 fan housing as it seemed pretty tight when I put the Crest in
I am so sorry, I misspoke, my fan is running non-stop. I updated my previous post. I didn't hear it, so I thought it wasn't running. My mistake. I don't think it would matter, but my Mac is laying sideways. The part I think is important is that the Crest assembly is not touching anything. I would try to get yours to have some space if that is possible.
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I am so sorry, I misspoke, my fan is running non-stop. I updated my previous post. I didn't hear it, so I thought it wasn't running. My mistake. I don't think it would matter, but my Mac is laying sideways. The part I think is important is that the Crest assembly is not touching anything. I would try to get yours to have some space if that is possible.
Ah OK mine is running non stop as well and I thought or assumed that perhaps if yours wasn't, then I might have a contact issue. BUT that was just guess and I do not know that it is actually making contact.
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Old 08-12-2019, 04:23 AM
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I am so sorry, I misspoke, my fan is running non-stop. I updated my previous post. I didn't hear it, so I thought it wasn't running. My mistake. I don't think it would matter, but my Mac is laying sideways. The part I think is important is that the Crest assembly is not touching anything. I would try to get yours to have some space if that is possible.
Your cheesegrater's on it's side? Any real reason why?
I'd be worried about the mechanical stresses placed on the cpu & heatsink assembly connection to the motherboard when in that position long term. I know people have mounted them on their sides in racks but still........
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I'd be worried about the mechanical stresses placed on the cpu & heatsink assembly connection to the motherboard when in that position long term.
Why? Cheesegrater on its side means motherboard is on its natural orientation which also means cpu heat naturally rises up and the cpu fan also should run with less mechanical stress.
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Why? Cheesegrater on its side means motherboard is on its natural orientation which also means cpu heat naturally rises up and the cpu fan also should run with less mechanical stress.
My bad - I should have said the tray everything sits on and not the motherboard.
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No worries. I'm confident they have designed the box to sit on either orientation.
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I have an Isobox with the slide-out tray that the Mac sits sideways on. This gives me room above for my 192s and it's easy to slide the Mac out to work on and slide it back in when done. Seems to run very quiet on it's side even with the Isobox door open.
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I have an Isobox with the slide-out tray that the Mac sits sideways on. This gives me room above for my 192s and it's easy to slide the Mac out to work on and slide it back in when done. Seems to run very quiet on it's side even with the Isobox door open.
Humm I might have to try a horizontal situation Because as it stands now I may have to construct and ISO box. Currently I do use some free standing 4 " thick 2 ft. X 4 ft. " broadband absorber panels I place in front of the computer, between it and my mic position, but am not certain that will suffice, as I have not done any recording yet.
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I own a Sound Construction Isobox. Very expensive though. New around $2500 with Mac tray and table top, if you go that route. But, you can now find them used for around $600. Still expensive, but it monitors the temperature and turns on fans as needed, temperature readout screen, alarm if it gets too hot, etc...

https://www.rspeaudio.com/Sound-Cons...cn-isbx-20.htm

Here are some pics showing different size boxes with the Mac tray. Both those pics are without the table top option though.
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