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Re: Saturation, Analog Warmth, etc. plugins
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You don't spend all that time and money pull apart 3 consoles and analyse the differences in each channel only to just fake an effect for a plugin. That's what constitutes as a very bad business decision. No one would do that. Your unfounded belief of opinion that has not grounding in fact, just attacks your credibility. Therefore, anything else you say is somewhat questionable, other than your opinion. |
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At this point I think we should define what "summing" (in and out of TB) means to each one of us. To me it means nothing whatsoever but I'm happy to be convinced otherwise
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Re: Saturation, Analog Warmth, etc. plugins
To me 'summing' means just what it says: the aggregation of different items into one item. The daw takes multiple tracks and sums them together into one output from the program to the d/a converters (assuming one works with a 2-bus as the final out). To me that's summing in the box. Summing out of the box would delete the 2-bus in the above example and substitute whatever analog equipment (mixer, SSL console, analog summing box like an SSL or Neve has) that takes the individual outputs from the d/a converters and melds them into one track pair to go back into the computer's a/d converters.
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"Connotes" as in connotation referring to a feeling invoked by a word in addition to it's literal meaning, as I said, that particular connection is from my experiences. Wasn't disagreeing with you, I just always think of Summing (with a capital S I suppose)as a function of an electrical circuit called a summing amplifier. Just me. The math thing was answer to Simon BUT I was originally only trying to understand how Jeezer's assertion that the summing done by the DAW host is inherently better than the summing done by a plugin BECAUSE it's done by the DAW host. Whether it is better or not I don't know, I'm just curious as to why it would necessarily be better just because it's done by the host. I mean actual facts, though I could guess at different possibilities , I'm just wondering if there is some particular available data that was being referred to. Simulation of analog summing I should say, as I agree with your point that the plug in doesn't do the summing, the DAW does as we know.
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Re: Saturation, Analog Warmth, etc. plugins
It’s a common misperception. While you are summing binary together in digital technology, you ARENT actually summing audio in analogue. That’s actually wrong.
You’re summing together voltages. It doesn’t become audio until the monitors vibrate the air around them. Whether you sum together voltages or sum together two binary values, the same mathematics principles are applied, 1 + 1 = 2, whether it’s using voyage or binary. So yes, it is possible to sum in the box. |
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