Eleven Rack outputs using S/PDIF (to board)

[median]

Hey all,
I am a brand new Pro Tools user! I just made the switch from Sonar X2 (although I still use it at times) and purchased the Eleven Rack with Pro Tools 10 just recently. I run a Tascam DM4800 mixer and am currently going out of the ER into the board. However, I cannot (for the life of me) figure out how to get sound to come out of my mains when playing a guitar through the ER.

I currently have the ER plugged in USB to my PC and I have two S/PDIF cables running from the ER to my boards digital I/O. I can hear sound when I plug in headphones to the ER but cannot hear sound or see anything coming through my board. Pro Tools "sees" the Eleven Rack when I start it but still I don't get any sound. Most likely this is just stupid user error but I'm stuck. Any help on this seemingly monstrously complex problem would be immensely awesome.

Thanks all!

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[Deansy]

The only thing that I can think of for now is: in Option what what do you see for "digital out" which is the setting for SPDIF. If you see DAW that can be the problem. Change that option to "Eleven Rig" and it might do the trick.

[nst7]

Are you using the Tascam as your interface into Protools? If that's what you're trying to do, make sure the Tascam is selected as the interface.

Then, make sure on the Eleven Rack, you choose "Spidf (or digital) mirrors main out".

Finally, you may need to create a track in Protools, with Spidf selected as the input.

[Deansy]

When he says PRO Tolls sees Eleven, I presumed he's using ELeven as the interface but that's not clear as to what he's using as an interface.

[nst7]

Right, but he's going Spidf into the board, which suggests he may be wanting to use the board as the interface. Even doing this, he will still have access to the 11R GUI window, which could be what he means by "sees" the 11R. Hopefully he'll come back so we can help him.

[median]

Originally Posted by nst7

Are you using the Tascam as your interface into Protools? If that's what you're trying to do, make sure the Tascam is selected as the interface.

Then, make sure on the Eleven Rack, you choose "Spidf (or digital) mirrors main out".

Finally, you may need to create a track in Protools, with Spidf selected as the input.

This solved my problem. Thank you! I actually had to set the Eleven Rack to digital output and then it worked :)

p.s. - Yes, I am using the board as my interface. I also would like to be able to record a dry track from the ER and I think this is done through the front "to amp" port, yes?

[nst7]

No, you don't use the output to amp. Since Spidf is 2 channels, you can record both an effected mono track and a dry mono track digitally. The only thing you can't do is record a stereo effected track with a mono dry track. To do that, you would need to actually use the 11R as your interface.

This is not a big deal, because the only reason you would want to record a stereo effected track is if you wanted to record with stereo effects such as delay or reverb. But it's actually better to just record a mono track with just the amp and cabinet, and later on in mixing, you can add the effects (either with plugins, or sending the signal back through the 11R's effects). You can also use plugins to monitor with effects while you're recording.


To set up to record a mono dry track and mono effected track via Spidf, look at page 82-83 of your manual. It's pretty simple. In the hardware setup menu of Protools, just remember to set the Tascam to internal clocking, and the 11R to external clocking. You may need a second Spidf cable from the Tascam coming in to the 11R.

[Benoni]

There are a couple ways you can re-amp with SPDIF. You can do the Split or use the Output to Amp. Go to my 11R blog or Youtube page and watch the video about using the 11R with another interface. In that video you will see both ways.

I've done it both ways, and everything re-amps fine for me with either method.

Of course its even easier to just use the 11R as the interface. Unless you need all the I/O at all times, you may just want to switch interfaces when you need to.

[winobob]

I'm having a similar problem (also just switched from Sonar / Cakewalk after 17 years). I'm plugging guitar in through Eleven Rack then USB into my computer. I would ultimately like to use Emu-1212 pci card for audio out. This way I can also use my monitors for all computer sound without more wires running needlessly under my feet to where the Eleven Rack is located (which is an inconvenient place to plug in monitor lines).

I never had problems using multiple inputs and outputs in Sonar, and at such a steep price and all the hype, I would expect the same from Pro Tools.

So far, no matter what I try, except for running a 1/4 inch from the Output to Amp to an Amp from ER, I get no sound from ER in the computer.

[Benoni]

Originally Posted by winobob

I'm having a similar problem (also just switched from Sonar / Cakewalk after 17 years). I'm plugging guitar in through Eleven Rack then USB into my computer. I would ultimately like to use Emu-1212 pci card for audio out. This way I can also use my monitors for all computer sound without more wires running needlessly under my feet to where the Eleven Rack is located (which is an inconvenient place to plug in monitor lines).

I never had problems using multiple inputs and outputs in Sonar, and at such a steep price and all the hype, I would expect the same from Pro Tools.

So far, no matter what I try, except for running a 1/4 inch from the Output to Amp to an Amp from ER, I get no sound from ER in the computer.

I don't understand. You get "no sound from ER in the computer"?

What does that mean? You want the 11R to output sound to the input of the computer? Why? The 11R is an audio interface, you don't need to port the sound into the computer.

If you want your computer sound to go through the 11R you can do that, make sure the drivers are installed, and simply choose the 11R as the main sound source in Control Panel or from the tray.