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Re: Pro Subharmonic Issues
There are two other issues with this plug in:
The older version can cause delay compensation issues. For me, I feed this using a send feeding an AUX. The AUX feeds into the main Sound Effects Sub Bus. If I don't feed something into the AUX, the final bounce of the Sound Effects Sub Bus comes back 1 FR early. If you have all of the parameters enabled on the plug, but don't write to them - the Frequency 'Range' parameter can change after closing the session and reopening. Quote:
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Re: Pro Subharmonic Issues
Maybe a good moment to go back to Lowender.
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Re: Pro Subharmonic Issues
PT HD 2018.1
OS X 10.12.6 ProSub 12.1.0.615 Also getting the changing frequency range parameter issue. As well as other values changing back to default after having been adjusted. On individual tracks have resorted to committing, but tough to do while working on a mix if it's on the buss…
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Re: Pro Subharmonic Issues
Any updates on this matter?
I haven't seen any new installers or any mention on it by Avid. |
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Re: Pro Subharmonic Issues
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In a way it's not fixable unless a new version would playback super-old and new at the same level. Otherwise any fix other than that would either break current sessions or old ones. I'd rather have them keep it as it is and not "break" it back to where it used to be. Or create a version that plays back old and new correctly. F.
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Re: Pro Subharmonic Issues
It seems the culprit of this issue is a bug in the subharmonic version 12.1.
Whenever you make a setting with the input frequency set to anything OTHER than 40-60Hz, e.g. 120-180Hz, and you deactivate -> activate the plugin, or even close and reopen the session(!), the input range is set to 40-60Hz. The input range highlight does NOT show this, the 120-180 range is still highlighted orange, but the center graphic response actually shows the 40-60 range instead of your selected 120-180Hz range. When you manually click the 120-180Hz range it switches to the intended setting. This 40-60Hz input frequency greatly decreases the output level (and/or character) depending on the input sound. Having just an automation breakpoint in the session does not fix this. The automation needs to switch range and switch back again to read the proper setting. This also means you'll always have to play through some switching automation before playback (or manually click after opening a session). Opening a session at some random point into the timeline will result in a bugged output, until it hits some input range automation. Workaround and compatibility with older 12.1 sessions: When you have used a single 'set and forget' setting which is now playing way too hard (actually correct) using the 12.7 version, you can set the input frequency range to 40-60Hz for the entire session to recreate a similar response you had before updating to version 12.7. Please note this output is not _exactly_ the same as the bugged 12.1 version. When testing using a sine wave I had to add about 4dB to the output trim (or the drive). Though when using a pink noise no added gain was needed, just setting the input to 40-60Hz resulted in a similar output as the bugged 12.1 subharmonic. This issue has been fixed using Pro Subharmonic version 12.7 (tested on Protools HD 12.8.3). I will soon test PT 2018.7 and the latest (18.1?) Pro Subharmonic. So yes the 12.7 version can sound louder, but it's actually the correct level. Also, we need release notes when plugin updates are released Last edited by Farhoof; 08-13-2018 at 02:08 AM. |
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Re: Pro Subharmonic Issues
My god Pro Subharmonic 2018.1 is a mess. Each time I press play I can get a different output. (Protools Ultimate 2018.7). Nobody at Avid is beta testing? I've found this after 20 seconds... /edit Same thing happening with 12.7. Could be a PT 2018.7 issue. So far, when set to DSP it seems to work fine. When set to native (same as offline bounce i guess) the output may vary each time I press play. This is most notable at the Resonant 1 drive setting (full wet mix). Using a 100Hz sine. Last edited by Farhoof; 08-13-2018 at 04:19 AM. |
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Re: Pro Subharmonic Issues
Wow, thanks for digging in Farhoof, I haven't done any testing on 2018.7 yet, still sticking with 2018.4 here, and as per Avid's advice, i'm running Pro SubHarmonic 12.1.
FYI, this is the response I got from Avid in June when I brought the bug to their attention. Quote:
I think i'm just going to ditch it for now and just use something else until this shakes out.
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