I have just installed PT 12. There are new features.

[jeffro]

Originally Posted by Stereo Missile

Thanks Jeffro,

Do you know if PT12 is currently compatible with the S6 software 1.4 or do we need to wait for an S6 update?

I will look into that and report back.

[zedhed]

Originally Posted by TOM@METRO

Coming from someone that's been mixing on 12 all day without any issues, let me just say...

I've been mixing on 12 all day without any issues.

With absolutely no difference to mixing on 11 all day without any issues I suspect.

Oh... except the wallet is somewhat lighter.

[YYR123]

Originally Posted by Ed Douglas

Thanks for the tip. The I/O and metadata stuff looks to be way more useful to me as an editor than collaboration / marketplace stuff.



Managing I/O configs bouncing sessions between work and home has been a PITA since PT10.



Also hoping for improvements in the way of presets for session data import beyond "All" or "None"... not holding my breath though.

Yes looks like it be a better experience in that regard (hopefully, fingers crossed)


Not as sexy as cloud and track freeze but def useful

[YYR123]

Originally Posted by Panacci

Don,t they make a pill these days for a "soft rollout" ?

Haha


But seriously I would like a stable 11 with OS 10.8/.10.9/10.10

Rock solid gold man, I would also like that -it's cool if your at 12 but I would also like attention to be paid to 11 also

Forget me not ....

[lowthert]

Can I install over 11.3.1 or do I have to manually uninstall PT11 to upgrade to 12? Mac.

[thewiz]

Just upgrade, worked fine on my system. Seams to be more stable than 11.31

[lexaudio]

Originally Posted by simonchase

New Features and Improvements in Pro Tools 12

Subscription, Avid Application Manager, and In-Application Plug-in Purchase

• ProTools12 provides new subscription and service options
• ProTools12 installs the Avid Application Manager to help manage your software updates and entitlements
• ProTools12 lets you browse, purchase, and install plug-ins from within the application

Dashboard

• The new Dashboard window lets you create or open sessions (replacing the Quick Start window)

Session Metadata

• The new Metadata Inspector window lets you view and edit metadata for sessions


I/O Setup Improvements

• Changes to the Output and Bus pages
• Virtually unlimited Bus paths
• Subpaths for Output paths
• Automatic downmix and upmix of Output busses to Outputs paths of different channel widths
• New Monitor Path setting
• Session Interchange and I/O Mapping improvements
• New keyboard modifiers for enabling and assigning Output busses
• Audition path improvements
• AFL/PFL path improvements
• Ability to restore the I/O Setup from the session
• I/O Settings files automatically created and recalled for different Playback Engines
• New Organize Track I/O Menus By preference
• Ability to import IO Settings from session files
• Access to the I/O Setup in the Session Notes dialog


That appears to be it

Wow. That's pretty lame for a new numbered release. Considering PT11 is still a mess in a lot of ways.

ProTools12 installs the Avid Application Manager to help manage your software updates and entitlements

Hi big brother!

ProTools12 lets you browse, purchase, and install plug-ins from within the application

Has not this been around for 2 decades. So AVID put it in a menu. BFD! (that isn't swearing mods).

The new Dashboard window lets you create or open sessions (replacing the Quick Start window)

OMG. Such an improvement than just clicking on the project file

-----Interjection here-----
Clearly, this is the tipping point for AVID. Opening a session is a feature? AVID is really making themselves look stupid.
-----done----

• Virtually unlimited Bus paths

Every other DAW has had this for a decade or more.

I could go into every single "upgrade" AVID has made. Which in itself is a major joke.

• Ability to import IO Settings from session files

Really AVID? Doesn't that exist in HD? Yes it does.

So is this a Vanilla update and you still CANNOT create and HD policy?

PT12 provides nothing of importance or need. It is an AVID "wag the dog" moment, nothing to see here, move along.

Martin Klobier would have made AVID a company to invest in and would have made it great.
Bob underwear stain, has no CLUE! (seriously mods, are you going to "ding" me for that?)

Bye, bye AVID. PT12 is improvments and cloud collab. LOL! Amazing feature list.
Nope!

[mattrussell]

If there are indeed more bug fixes and it's more stable, I'd take that over any new feature (as we ALWAYS have complained about here - fix things, don't add things). That said, the I/O dialog and feature improvements around it and then Metadata Inspector sound very useful and worth updating for. I'm going to take the plunge and will certainly report back.

Yes, I too prefer the soft roll out of the new features rather than Avid taking a deep dive with them.

If you want to rant, go for it. This may seem like a dot-rev to you guys, but to me, it feels like a win, especially if it's really behaving well. I can't think of a feature I'd rather have than stability. I don't NEED the cloud as much as I WANT it. Stability over everything.

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[thewiz]

I'll take bug fix over new release any day... Right now the V12 is a bug fix and I'm find with that. I'm even ok with 199$ a year for support plan, I do with Waves too. But for 599$ the HD guys they better get new hardware every 3 years. That's just silly..

[mattrussell]

Originally Posted by thewiz

I'll take bug fix over new release any day... Right now the V12 is a bug fix and I'm find with that. I'm even ok with 199$ a year for support plan, I do with Waves too. But for 599$ the HD guys they better get new hardware every 3 years. That's just silly..

Well, I'm an HD guy and while $599 is indeed a lot of money, it's the main tool I use to make my living. $599 at the end of the day is a drop in the bucket compared to plug in purchases I'm often forced to make to stay current and be able to open things that artists send, esp with VI purchases. Seriously, the app is nothing compared to that. Not sure what I spent last year in total on plug ins, but I would imagine it's probably 3x or 4x that amount. That's where I always take a beating.

Hardware...the move from my 96i/o to my Omni was beyond well worth it. The sonics are MILES better. It's not even close, so in the end, I didn't mind one bit. If you're a guy that writes off expenses, these things are bound to happen in any profession. I'm just glad I'm not video shooter. I swear, they have it the worst.

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