How was PT10 a transition to PT11 and AAX?

[WinTaper]

So I'm just thinking... how was PT10 a "transition" version? It was supposed to get us ready for AAX... but the AAX plugins that work with it do not work with version 11. This was not exactly made clear at all when 10 shipped.

Even though I embraced the new standard and upgraded all my favorite plugins (UAD, Komplete) to AAX versions, I'm still not able to use any of these plugins in PT11 - because PT11 uses yet another incompatible format.

I'm feeling somewhat duped by this. I guess I was under the false impression that upgrading my plugins under 10 would somehow make me more ready for 11.

I'm also a little worried and skeptical that since pro-tools 11 wasn't tested with many plugins during development - anything can happen when aax64 plugins finally come to market. Will there be a PT12 right behind it to address any issues that may arise? Why should I expect that to go smoothly?

For now, PT10 works great - and yeah I know I don't HAVE to upgrade. But as someone who likes to stay current and who thought that's what they were doing - I'm a bit disappointed with the release of PT11 being pretty much incompatible with everything.

-Dan

[zedhed]

Originally Posted by WinTaper

So I'm just thinking... how was PT10 a "transition" version? It was supposed to get us ready for AAX... but the AAX plugins that work with it do not work with version 11. This was not exactly made clear at all when 10 shipped.

Even though I embraced the new standard and upgraded all my favorite plugins (UAD, Komplete) to AAX versions, I'm still not able to use any of these plugins in PT11 - because PT11 uses yet another incompatible format.

It's not the format that's incompatible, it's the fact that 32Bit & 64Bit are different. They are both AAX format. Most of Avids AAX64Bit plugins are ready and usable in PT11 and some third parties are already working. Other 3rd parties have indicated release dates and yet others are dragging their heels.

Originally Posted by WinTaper

I'm feeling somewhat duped by this. I guess I was under the false impression that upgrading my plugins under 10 would somehow make me more ready for 11.

Personally, I can't understand why you'd feel this way. All the relevant information has been out there since the release of PT10.

Originally Posted by WinTaper

I'm also a little worried and skeptical that since pro-tools 11 wasn't tested with many plugins during development - anything can happen when aax64 plugins finally come to market.

I just purchased Superior Drummer and it's working fine in PT11 and I know others have purchased various plugins that are working fine so I think that's a good indication of how it will go.

Originally Posted by WinTaper

Will there be a PT12 right behind it to address any issues that may arise? Why should I expect that to go smoothly?

PT11 is working with no problems for me so right now I have no expectations of PT12.

Originally Posted by WinTaper

For now, PT10 works great - and yeah I know I don't HAVE to upgrade. But as someone who likes to stay current and who thought that's what they were doing - I'm a bit disappointed with the release of PT11 being pretty much incompatible with everything.

-Dan

You said it yourself..."I know I don't HAVE to upgrade". Frankly, you are wrong in saying "the release of PT11 being pretty much incompatible with everything."

Yes it isn't compatible with everything, but it is compatible with a growing number of plugins...as was expected by those who did their research.

If you aren't ready to upgrade, the solution is easy...don't.

[louieshowers]

Don't Ever try to talk negatively about Avid until you are ready to confront the damage controllers who will defend their every move on this forum. For the record, I am not one of those people.

[albee1952]

There's nothing wrong with talking negatively about Avid. Pointing out valid issues is how the product gets improved. What's wrong is blaming Avid for your own lack of paying attention to all the information that IS out there. PT10, as a transition version, was less about AAX and more(much more) about hardware compatibility. 10 was compatible with most older hardware, AND all the new hardware.

[YYR123]

Yeah PT10 (software) was the last of the compatible software for Legacy hardware and obviously control surfaces also

[WinTaper]

OK - so why bother releasing AAX-32 at all?
It was a dead-end format from the start.

[jgrooms]

Because Pro Tools 10 is 32 bit and you needed to get AAX in the hands of developers

[louieshowers]

and again, customer satisfaction was last on the list.. PT 10 for windows was abysmal for upwards of a year. Luckily I had a free upgrade from 9. Clip gain was a game changer, but was something already offered by the other major daws. ps. pt 10 still randomly crashes when using the midi editor at least once every hour or so.

[WinTaper]

Originally Posted by jgrooms

Because Pro Tools 10 is 32 bit and you needed to get AAX in the hands of developers

Yep - and they all scrambled to build 32-bit AAX plugins that are immediately end-of-life. Now they're being told AAX2/64 is the way to go. No, really.

Until PT11 was announced, I don't remember any statements that indicated PT10 AAX plugins would not work in PT11. Yeah we all heard that 11 would be full 64-bit and not support RTAS.

But I don't remember seeing any "AAX plugins in PT10 will not work when PT11 comes out". As a developer - I would've skipped 32-bit AAX altogether - obviously its not just a few compiler switches.

All that said, I will be upgrading once my favorite plugs are compatible with PT11... there are some new features I could really use. I guess I'm mostly disappointed that for me, it doesn't work with current my toolset/workflow

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by jgrooms

Because Pro Tools 10 is 32 bit and you needed to get AAX in the hands of developers

And yet there's still developers out there dragging their anchors on AAX 64 bit.