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Old 08-28-2002, 08:19 AM
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Default Drum Machine suggestions

Hey everybody,

For the past 3 or so years I've been
using the Boss DR-770 Drum Machine.

It has decent sounds and its very easy
to program using real-time looping
and quantization.

I program my own beats and also use
some of the preset beats as starting points.

But...I'm starting to want something else...
different sounds, different presets, etc.

You would think that there would be many
comparable units on the market but there
really isn't. (I used to own the Alesis SR-16
which had good sounds but I found unintuitive
for programming.)

So...What do you guys use to program drum sounds?

I need...

* Good and diverse sounds
* Ability to manipulate sounds
* Intuitive/friendly programing
* A nice variety of pattern presets
* Expendability would be nice
* A nice interface

I need buttons to push. I'm a guitar player
and not too good at thinking in terms of
Quarters and Eighth notes. I need to HIT things!

Any suggestions or thoughts...much appreciated!

Thanks!

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Old 08-28-2002, 08:51 AM
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Old 08-28-2002, 10:59 AM
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I'm afraid that as far as the kind of drum machine you are referring to, the DR-770 is the top of the line. People are getting into samples nowadays, which is why noone wants to make a hardware machine that can't be expanded later. My suggestion to you is get a MPC 2000 by Akai. It has the easiest user interface possible, it samples, so you can import your own sounds through audio sampling, or sample disks. It also has an excellent sequencer in it.

Even though you may think it is a little much at first, realize that this is the next logical step if you are tired of your DR770, which is the latest machine out.

After my boss DR5, I was sampling and programming with the MPC in no time, without the manual. All the buttons on the machine have their own instructions on them.

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Old 08-28-2002, 01:10 PM
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Can the MPC work in Latch/Gate mode ?
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Old 08-28-2002, 04:24 PM
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The Boss Dr. Groove dr-202 has some REALLY good sounds, as far as hip-hop and teckno-esque sounds go, for drumz and BASS. It also has some cool knobs to turn, internal effects, etc... and you can find them on eBay sometimes as cheap as $250.
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Old 08-28-2002, 05:06 PM
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Yup, the MPC is the pro standard... if you want a "box", that's the one to get.

However, I personally prefer using samples and loops instead of a traditional drum machine if I have to do that sort of thing. I actually would much rather use a DRUMMER and a REAL KIT, but that's just me, and I realize that it's not perfect for all musical genres. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-28-2002, 11:08 PM
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I read your post again, to see if it still applies, and surely enough, it does.

REASON 2.0

If you have any kind of midi keyboard or controller, you can hit that to play it.
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Old 08-29-2002, 12:18 AM
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However, I personally prefer using samples and loops instead of a traditional drum machine if I have to do that sort of thing. I actually would much rather use a DRUMMER and a REAL KIT, but that's just me, and I realize that it's not perfect for all musical genres.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hey Phil,
I have a Dr.770, Alesis DM5 pro, and Kurzwiel 2600. I program most of my drums in a sequencer.
What drum sample library's would you recomend?

Thanks

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Old 08-29-2002, 12:46 AM
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Hmmm....Akai MPC...Eh? (Voice of Homer Simpson)

Yes...You've anticipated my fear...looks complex.
(Hiding behind my cubicle wall...You sure it
doesn't bite?)

And Yes...It is the logical step up because
of exapndibilty and also that samples
things other than drum sounds.

So...the sequencer is user friendly?

Also, when you put sounds into it...like from
a record or sample cd...is it easy to chop
them into specicific sized bits? Ie...how
does it know when the snare sound ends?

Of course...the other big problem for me is $$$.
The MPC2000XL is around $1300. That's a whole
lotta beans!

Any other options?

I will keep researching. Thanks for all your help!

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Old 08-29-2002, 12:53 AM
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Tod, the MPC 2000 is the drum machine to get if you want professional sounding beats. There's many ways to go. I personally use the MPC 2000 and would not buy any other drum machine. The reason I say that is that I can load any type of drum sounds I want into it. Here's how it works. - You get an MPC 2000 with the optional SCSI connector. You buy an external SCSI CD drive. You buy sample CD's from places like www.bigfishaudio.com www.soundsonline.com or www.zero-g.co.uk in AKAI format and you can have whatever type of drum sounds you want, all pre-effected. Then once you've learned how to use the MPC you assign whatever sounds you want to whatever drumpads you want. Plus you have 16 drumpads x 4 banks for a total of 64 sounds per program. Another way to go is to get Acid and load those same CD's. Then all the beats are done for you. Originally I thought of this as cheating but once I heard all the drumloop CD's out there I changed my mind. I hope this helps. Any other questions feel free to ask. P.S. (make sure that the CD's you buy for the MPC are "Individual Drum Hits" and not loops . The MPC 2000 can use loops but they do not loop as well as in Acid. I use only individuals in the MPC.) [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
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