OSX 10.7 Lion + PT9

[kazuomik]

Originally Posted by nean

whats your output of "uname -a" and "otool -L" for Pt app ?

as you can see ProTools is still using Carbon Framework, and i'm wondering how you got a working carbon framework under 10.7 gm?

# otool -L /Applications/Digidesign/Pro\ Tools/Pro\ Tools.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro\ Tools
/Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools:
...
	/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon (compatibility version 2.0.0, current version 136.0.0)

at this point my assumption would be, that avid needs (or already has for a brand new version) to recode a lot of legacy (carbon) crap to be compatible with lion.
...

$ uname -a
Darwin imac.local 11.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 11.0.0: Sat Jun 18 12:56:35 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1699.22.73~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
$ otool
-bash: otool: command not found
$ file '/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon'
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon (for architecture x86_64):	Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon (for architecture i386):	Mach-O dynamically linked shared library i386
$

otool command is not found, maybe because Xcode has not been installed yet.
However, Carbon exists and supports both 32-bit and 64-bit on Lion (GM Seed).
In my understanding, Lion may run only in 64-bit, but it is simply because Finder.app supports only 64-bit.
However, most of other parts including mach_kernel and Carbon still supports 32-bit.

$ file '/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder'
/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
$ file /mach_kernel
/mach_kernel: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
/mach_kernel (for architecture x86_64):	Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
/mach_kernel (for architecture i386):	Mach-O executable i386
$

[LukeHoward]

This should clear things up a bit:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews...s-x-10-6.ars/5

I don't believe anything has changed for Lion (OK, you can't run PowerPC applications anymore, and support for some older hardware has been dropped, see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07...int_7_preview/ for more information).

[KANONLAB]

ONLY FOR UPDATING INFO:

PRO TOOLS 9 WITH LION GOLDEN MASTER 11A511 NOT WORKING, SO THE DEFINITIVE VERSION OF LION COMES IN JULY 19, AND LIKE ALWAYS AVID OVER THE YEARS DONT CARE UNTIL 3 0 4 MONTHS LATER, IM USING PRO TOOLS SINCE VERSION 6 AND ALWAYS THAT APPLE GIVE US A NEW OS AVID/DIGIDESIGN SLOWER THAN A TURTLE...

[kazuomik]

Originally Posted by kazuomik

Even though Pro Tools.app cannot be launched from Dock or Finder,
we can still execute Pro Tools binary directly from Terminal.app, typing ike:
cd '/Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools.app/Contents/MacOS'; ./'Pro Tools'

But there may be other trouble.
For my case, Play immediately stopped.
After executing Repair Disk Permission from Disk Utility.app,
the permission of /Library/Audio/MIDI Devices was fixed,
and it started to play again.
It seems fine so far on Lion GM Seed (11A511) as on DP4.

Yesterday, I installed Waves V8r7, then PTHD9 became not to accept mouse click.
After removing WaveSehll-DAE 8.0.dpm, PTHD9 resumed working.
This might be Wave's V8r7 compatibility with Lion, rather than PT9 itself.
But anyway, it is still far from stable operation on Lion.

[nean]

is it feasible to get an update on this -> avid/DigiTechSupt ?!?

[Dism]

Originally Posted by nean

is it feasible to get an update on this -> avid/DigiTechSupt ?!?

On what???

It's a beta OS!!!

If you have ever used Pro Tools, you know that it's going to be a long time before there is official support, and AVID WILL NEVER DISCUSS FUTURE PROGRESS OF ANYTHING, EVER. PERIOD. FULL STOP.

[lemonkid]

Then it is time for them to hurry up.......... What is the logic in 'they always let us wait so we should be patient again this time too'?

[psmworld]

well, it´s better for them to work on the final retail-version. even gold masters can get big changes, then all the work´s for nothing...

[marrap]

if you have a working system why one should be in hurry for an update ?
I mean, I’m using on a system because it works, just for a couple of new features of the operating system I risk to loose my ability to earn money ?
If I’m really curious and have the time, I explore it on another hard drive.
....and there are just Developer releases of Lion around, so what you expecting
from Avid ? a working pre release of PT to explore an developer release ?
.....come on

[mattrussell]

what the hell is that matter with you guys? this is how you spend your time? you really WANT TO run an app as complex as PT on a dev copy of an unreleased OS? do you have a single client that would WANT you to do that?

seriously, GO BACK TO WORK, assuming you have any.