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Old 10-04-2015, 06:10 PM
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Default S-3 vs Slate MTI2

I just saw the announcement it's late just came out with the new MTI2, now they sell for only 999 bucks. I've never used any of the slate controllers, but I do find it compelling, that just for $1000, you can get such a heavily featured latent controller product. I'm just curious what you guys think about that, versus using something like an S-3?

Everything I've read, people who use the Raven products, for the most part, simply love them. Maybe I'm just old school, but I do love the idea of touching a physical fader. I guess I'm just torn. What do you guys think?
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Old 10-04-2015, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: S-3 vs Slate MTI2

I am in a similar boat here. I actually have already purchased and installed Dtouch software from deviltechnologies.com, but have had to return 2 bad touchscreens. Still plan on getting another(different brand though) which puts it even cheaper than the new Slate(which I still can't tell if it works on a Windows machine, which Dtouch does) For sure, they will sell a lot more MTi's at that price. After watching several videos on the S3, I am still very intrigued by it, but wish the price was more in line with Artist pricing(kinda feel it should retail at $3500) and the AVB interface only works on Mac at this point in time
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Old 10-04-2015, 06:57 PM
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I just saw the announcement it's late just came out with the new MTI2, now they sell for only 999 bucks. I've never used any of the slate controllers, but I do find it compelling, that just for $1000, you can get such a heavily featured latent controller product. I'm just curious what you guys think about that, versus using something like an S-3?

Everything I've read, people who use the Raven products, for the most part, simply love them. Maybe I'm just old school, but I do love the idea of touching a physical fader. I guess I'm just torn. What do you guys think?
Barry,
Here's an exercise for you. Do you have a remote for your tv? It's a piece of hardware with 3 dimensional buttons right? Now, try downloading and using the virtual version on your phone.

It's the difference between this:



And this:



Try it and see what you think.

I'm serious BTW.
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Old 10-04-2015, 07:12 PM
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A client of mine has an MTI. It's great for editing the new breed of plugins with those non-traditional gui's as well as vi's.

However, being somewhat of an old-school type myself I suppose, I prefer a controller with physical faders and knobs. Ideally with a dedicated eq and dynamics sections...
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Old 10-04-2015, 07:35 PM
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.....the new Slate(which I still can't tell if it works on a Windows machine, which Dtouch does)....

Video said it was supposed to be shipping PC versions by the time the product was on the market

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Yup. It'll be 'coming soon'. Nothing to be concerned about.
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Yup. It'll be 'coming soon'. Nothing to be concerned about.

Haha yeah now that you mention it....


And I was not impressed with the raven when I sat down with one....in humid south central Texas the finger doesn't slide quite so easy

I will take an S3
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Barry,
Here's an exercise for you. Do you have a remote for your tv? It's a piece of hardware with 3 dimensional buttons right? Now, try downloading and using the virtual version on your phone.

It's the difference between this:



And this:



Try it and see what you think.

I'm serious BTW.
Drew, help me, I'm not following you.

If I'm guessing, I think what you're trying to say, is with the remote, you really don't have to even look at it, it's kind of intuitive, you know exactly where to touch. Where is having it on a touchscreen, you have to stop and look down to figure out where you're at. Is that where you're going? If so, I get it.

Am I close?

On a separate note, I've done a lot of reading about this, and for those who actually use them day in and day out, they really swear by it. I've actually had no problem using my iPad to control faders, as well as other things that are controllable within the iPad versions. My only problem that's far, is the fact that the iPad screen is pretty small.

If there's one thing that I know for sure, for me, I can simply never imagine not using a control surface. I find that using one helps my productivity immensely.

You did vantage for using something like the Raven, is the fact that technology is only going to drive the prices down even further as we go forward. Where is it seems the prices of control surfaces, that are hardware-based, seem to be doing nothing but going up and up.

To me the S3 is way overpriced, when you look at the materials are actually in it. It really should be half the price.

I really don't know why I stress so much about my attempting to stay current. Everything I have in my studio works perfectly fine today, as it has for years now. I honestly don't know why I concern myself with it so much.
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Drew, help me, I'm not following you.

If I'm guessing, I think what you're trying to say, is with the remote, you really don't have to even look at it, it's kind of intuitive, you know exactly where to touch. Where is having it on a touchscreen, you have to stop and look down to figure out where you're at. Is that where you're going? If so, I get it.

Am I close?
Yes sir!! You got it.

Your arm weight is about 6% of your total body weight. Imagine holding that out in front of you for 10 hours. Try it.

Better yet, get a Raven from your dealer so that you can return it if needed. I wouldn't put too much into people that are trying to justify their most recent expenditure.
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Yes sir!! You got it.

Your arm weight is about 6% of your total body weight.
Have you seen the size of my guns! My arms are at least 6.25% of my bodyweight!
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