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Old 05-30-2019, 03:40 AM
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Hmm. It makes everything louder
Yes - is louder but also different - I asked my wife to listen without explaining what it was (HEAT, tube / tape saturation) and she preferred the same tracks with HEAT - I asked her "is it because is louder?" and she said "no, it simply sounds better" (she would not like the price $$ but that's for another day)
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:02 AM
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Yes - is louder but also different - I asked my wife to listen without explaining what it was (HEAT, tube / tape saturation) and she preferred the same tracks with HEAT - I asked her "is it because is louder?" and she said "no, it simply sounds better" (she would not like the price $$ but that's for another day)
Not scientific enough. Print 2 mixes, get them level matched (maybe use a LUFS meter?), then get her to listen. Nearly every "lay" person will prefer a slightly louder signal and say it sounds "better", even if they can't detect that's it's 1dB or so (unless obvious clipping occurs). If you don't believe me just run off exactly the same mix but make one 1/1.5dB louder. She will definitely say she louder one sounds "better", even though it's exactly the same mix.

If you're using the "tone" knob then that will obviously make the mix slightly brighter or darker, and again, most people will say they prefer a slightly brighter signal...unless it's so bright it's starting to take your scalp off.
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:21 AM
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Not scientific enough
Ah - I actually did measure with Audio Suite > Other > Pro Limiter Loudness Analyzer and the HEAT mix got to 14 LUFS while the non-HEAT was originally 16 LUFS

Then I re-worked the HEAT mix to match the original mix at 16 LUFS (just tweaking "Pro Limiter" at the end of master bus). Then I listened to both mixes and they sounds very similar, except the HEAT mix has a little something else that is pleasant

In the end I'm just testing it before I make a decision to upgrade my vanilla Pro Tools (permanent license) to Pro Tools Ultimate + HEAT. I know there are plugins that do something similar (tube / tape saturation) but none is integrated in the mixer like HEAT (which i think is elegant).

Besides the sound, I also I like the blinking yellow lights in the mixer tracks when HEAT is working, reminds me of vintage tube amps
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:39 AM
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Ah - I actually did measure with Audio Suite > Other > Pro Limiter Loudness Analyzer and the HEAT mix got to 14 LUFS while the non-HEAT was originally 16 LUFS

Then I re-worked the HEAT mix to match the original mix at 16 LUFS (just tweaking "Pro Limiter" at the end of master bus). Then I listened to both mixes and they sounds very similar, except the HEAT mix has a little something else that is pleasant

In the end I'm just testing it before I make a decision to upgrade my vanilla Pro Tools (permanent license) to Pro Tools Ultimate + HEAT. I know there are plugins that do something similar (tube / tape saturation) but none is integrated in the mixer like HEAT (which i think is elegant).

Besides the sound, I also I like the blinking yellow lights in the mixer tracks when HEAT is working, reminds me of vintage tube amps
Great - if you like it, go for it
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:09 PM
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I was wondering what settings everyone uses?


My mix template is set to:

Audio Tracks: PRE
Drive: 1 O'clock
Tone: 11 O'clock (sometimes 2 O'clock)
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Old 06-13-2019, 12:56 AM
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I bet most would've been happier with HEAT in PT vanilla than the dozen random extras they threw in over the last few years.
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All of us would be happiest once PT goes full circle and returns to one unified (1st excluded) software. I'm not holding my breath though...
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I was wondering what settings everyone uses?


My mix template is set to:

Audio Tracks: PRE
Drive: 1 O'clock
Tone: 11 O'clock (sometimes 2 O'clock)


I have drive set to -2 (10 o clock) and tone set to +1 (1 o clock) I love it!


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I have drive set to -2 (10 o clock) and tone set to +1 (1 o clock) I love it!
When I use HEAT, I often use that same setting.
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Old 06-14-2019, 04:35 PM
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Downunder we have DeepHEAT doesn’t do much for PT but great for muscle pain

I would happily give back all the free stuff.... which I don’t really use to have HEAT in PT vanilla
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