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Microphone techniques
Need Help........
I am using a NTK (Rode) microphone with Digimax LT preamp. DIGI001 interface connected to a G4 dual 800. One thing I have been noticing in my mixes is that the vocals are not as good as they should be. For example, too much popping. I have a windscreen with popper stoppers and that has solved some problems but not all. Would this be more of a mic technique skill that each vocalist needs to improve on? And if this is so what is the best way to train them in this area? Can anyone help? Also, is there any good books out there for mic techniques. I have seen ones for mic placement, but how about for improving one's skills. Any advice would be great........... Regards, Mark |
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Re: Microphone techniques
Hi,
I'll share my secret popper stopper weapon with you. If you put up a pop stopper and you are still getting pops, first adjust mic position. Make sure the diaphram of the mic isn't directly in line with the mouth of the singer and also make sure that the mic is 6"-8" away instead of 2"-3". Most singers like to be right up on the mic, and sometimes its ok. but if they are popping then you need to move the mic back a little and possibly up. I usually like to have the mic diaphram directly in line with the singer's nose isntead of their mouth. Now, if you try all of these and you are still getting some pops...try my little secret trick I picked up from a producer a while ago. ***Tape a pencil to the front of the microphone so that the pencil hangs down up against the grill of the microphone. Make sure to get the pencil pressed as firmly as possible against the grill. Then center it oover the diaphram. When looking at the mic from the front, the pencil should extend down right over the middle of the diaphram. Make sure the pencil goes down an inch or so past the bottom-most part of the diaphram. Also, try to use a wooden pencil or wooden dowel if you can instead of a pen. What does this do? It acts as a wind break over the diaphram so any remaining air pressure hitting the diaphram is deflected off to the sides, yet the pencil is thin enough that it doesn't alter the sound of the vocalist in the microphone. It softens pops and if you are already using a pop filter can give you that little bit extra protection against extreme pops the filter doesn't stop. As for improving your mic'ing technique, I found I get the best sounding vocals when I stick the mic up the singer's "where the sun don't shine"! Most singers have their heads up there anyway, so putting the mic up there really captures the subtle nuances of their voice! HAHAHAHAHA But seriously, one thing I've noticed with tracks I get from people that record in their home is that there are all these early reflections in the vocal mic. When you record your vocals (if you're doing it at home) try to put the singer and mic as far away from all walls as possible...maybe the middle of the room, or a little forward from the middle. One thing I started doing a while ago when I would do vocal sessions at a producer's house is build a makeshift isolation booth for the singer. Take 3 or 4 mic stands...extend them up a couple feet over the singer's head. Make either a triangle(if using 3) or diamond (if using 4) around the singer and vocal mic...then drape blankets, comforters, sleeping bags, etc. from one mic stand to the next. They should hang down to at least knee level. And make sure the singer is standing on a carpeted surface. If you want to get really fancy and totally make the singer feel confined, you can also put a blanket over the top! For improving singing skills, you really need a vocal coach. There are so many things you get from a vocal coach that just can't be explained in a book. Good luck and have fun!
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Re: Microphone techniques
i like o.g. killa's pencil recommendation -- never tried it, but that sounds plausible. as for singers and the location of their heads, well --
i use the ntk (and love it). i use a pop filter about 3" in front of the mic and i stand about another 3" behind that. haven't had a pop yet. steve |
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We've got two NTK's here, and often have vocalists on top of the pop screen, whcih is within 2" of the mic, with no pop issues.
If it's happening with every singer, I'd suspect a possible mic problem, but if it's just with one or two, then I'd say yes it is technique. It should be fairly obvious listening to them sing acoustically, and moving them backa bit may help. I got the opposite way in vertical mic positioning, I have the singer sing over the micm rahter than under ti as previously described. If you look at a crossection of the human resperatory system, when you stand straigh up or with the head lifted upward, as shown in many "studio" scenes on M-TV and VH-1, the esophagus is actually restricted, creating a bit of a block for air to travel. IF however you take on a Elvis pose, with the head slightly tilted forward, your esophagus is wide open, allowing maximum airflow with minimal effort. I also find in this position vocalsists that normally sound thin are more fuller voice, with the chest resonance pronounced. |
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Generally I have the singer move in when I want a more intimate sound, soft voice, airy breathy sound, not for a screamer. they stand at the 2 foot line.
The up close vocal on the NTK, provided the singer has good technique, yields a very in your face vocal, similiar to getting whispered to in your ear, little to no room sound. Also, the proximity effect gives a bit warmer tone to the track. Placement is key, as noted, the singer sings over rather than into the mic, with the diaphram pointed toward the chin/chest. this also lessens the slight high end boost of the mic. |
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very very interesting |
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What's wrong with Lemmy's (Motörhead) singingtechnique?
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Also, here's another little fun trick I learned a long time ago that usually works. For singers that are constantly singing flat, raise the mic up from it's current position an inch or two. Tell them to sing into the mic. While looking up and singing isn't good for the tone...psychologically a singer will try to sing a little higher if they look up. Conversely, if a singer keeps going sharp...drop the mic an inch or two and tell them to look down into the mic while they sing. They'll drop their pitch a little bit.
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