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Old 03-27-2017, 03:04 AM
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It is $999 , not $899 to reinstate a HD license ...

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It's still $998 too high. $999 to get from HD9 to HD10, it doesn't even wear me out anymore, just kinda numb from it.
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Old 03-27-2017, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: Curious: How many of you are letting your license ride..

12.4 was really starting to get it right as far as stability in my opinion. Then what happened with 12.5? Cloud Collaboration. Enter major instability. I have thought for quite awhile now in hindsight that if Avid would have stayed on the straight path and not diverted down the collaboration path Protools would be much more stable today and most likely even with new features that would not have broken the software to where it is today. Some of those resources could have also gone into making the video more stable. I really believe the software could have been in a much better state. I understand it was a business decision but can't help but think how much better it could have been if they would have stayed the course they were on.
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Old 03-27-2017, 08:47 AM
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. I have thought for quite awhile now in hindsight that if Avid would have stayed on the straight path and not diverted down the collaboration path Protools would be much more stable today and most likely even with new features that would not have broken the software to where it is today. Some of those resources could have also gone into making the video more stable. I really believe the software could have been in a much better state. I understand it was a business decision but can't help but think how much better it could have been if they would have stayed the course they were on.

Heck make it a preference....or a side program......

it sounds like most people don't use it anyway.

Would be very interesting to see the number of users on a monthly basis that Avid has utilizing cloud collaboration
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Default Re: Curious: How many of you are letting your license ride..

I'd say very few of us are using the Cloud from Avid. They do provide uninstallers for both the cloud services and the Avid App. And I use them both. It seems to help with stability.

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Old 03-27-2017, 10:32 AM
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Starting with PT9 which is generally speaking "PT8 with ability to use 3r party interfaces". So that's one thing that takes stability out of your control and we know that. Again with PT10 which is the bridge release between RTAS/TDM old world and AAX new world. They opened the infamous can of worms by allowing two (or three) very different plugin architectures to work together. Then there was PT11 which in my opinion came too fast, they were not ready. And PT12 is just PT11 with another version number.
True, but I don't know if that's a great excuse. Almost every other DAW is capable of running 3rd party interfaces as well as multiple plugin platforms (AU, VST, VST3, etc).
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Old 03-27-2017, 11:20 AM
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I'd say very few of us are using the Cloud from Avid. They do provide uninstallers for both the cloud services and the Avid App. And I use them both. It seems to help with stability.

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Old 03-27-2017, 11:54 AM
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There is every reason to believe what you say is true. The collaboration feature had to require changes to every part of the software, and it is a given that those changes have contributed to the current instability. Add to that the two years or so spent developing the feature, and it becomes apparent what a terrible decision it was.

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12.4 was really starting to get it right as far as stability in my opinion. Then what happened with 12.5? Cloud Collaboration. Enter major instability. I have thought for quite awhile now in hindsight that if Avid would have stayed on the straight path and not diverted down the collaboration path Protools would be much more stable today and most likely even with new features that would not have broken the software to where it is today. Some of those resources could have also gone into making the video more stable. I really believe the software could have been in a much better state. I understand it was a business decision but can't help but think how much better it could have been if they would have stayed the course they were on.
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Old 03-27-2017, 11:56 AM
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My HD perpetual license expert plus plan expires at the end of this month. No more for me. I didn't get $399. worth last year and had I known it would be no better than it is today I wouldn't have wasted that money. Staying on 12.4 where I was when I spent the last $399. I have seen nothing in the last year to make me believe it is going to get better and justify giving Avid more money.
This is where I'm at, and I'm convinced that I should stay and NOT pull the trigger on the plan renewal, which is due in 9 days for me...

From my AVID plan renewal email notice, these are the reasons:

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All of the exciting new Pro Tools features coming in the months ahead
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I don't own or plan to use these because of the way they are tied into the leasing scheme.

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I have never used it.

So, I can be added to the ranks that have thrown in the towel for PTHD and will use what I have in place, until I don't any longer.
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Old 03-27-2017, 12:35 PM
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My sub expires this Friday. I have the 'just in case' attitude so I will resubscribe. Plus I do mostly mixing/mastering, not much tracking and midi these days and I have very few issues for the way I use it.
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Old 03-27-2017, 01:23 PM
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True, but I don't know if that's a great excuse. Almost every other DAW is capable of running 3rd party interfaces as well as multiple plugin platforms (AU, VST, VST3, etc).
That was new to me. Name one daw that can handle AU and another platform. Not starting a flame war here, just being curious...
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