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Old 10-27-2014, 04:02 PM
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That's an important majority but that group includes those who have stuck on an old/stable system, as well as those who might stick on PT11 i.e. no new revenue for Avid. Additionally, the full situation has only really been explored fully here on DUC and many PTE readers will not even be aware of this thread.

So, 30% is probably 'best case'for Avid and, unless there are changes (or possibly clarifications of current misunderstandings), it's clear that the cost of carrying Pro Tools into the future will have to be borne by a smaller group than at present, including many of us here!
For me, barring a mea culpa from Avid, I'm freezing my system at PT10.3.9 and PT11.2.1 These, while not ideal at the moment, do what I need them to do and are making me funds to continue.
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Old 10-27-2014, 05:17 PM
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If Avid came to us cap in hand, admitted they were having some problems, needed cash now, and offered a deal like that, I'd sign up!

It's the whole smoke and mirrors, disinformation, ambiguity and inept coercive attempt to extract money that has people riled.

Avid totally fails to understand the true nature of its user base...

What a sad, sad situation :-(
Indeed. Their reputation certainly precedes them if anything. The writers I work with are all on Logic and don't want to hear anything remotely concerning Pro Tools. Worse yet, don't even mention the name, Avid. Somehow that word alone has crept up to be reviled as the industry's equivalent of Microsoft. So what good is Avid | EVERYWHERE if they continue to push people out the door and there's NOBODY | ANYWHERE?

My current impression is that they're more content with developing software licensing platforms than artist tools. Imagine how many updates will be released just to fix licensing bugs (though they'll probably be called, "stability releases".) Time that would be better spent on enhancing our workflow will instead be dedicated to managing our usage. So that's probably what a good portion of the funds will be addressing in the year(s) to come.

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Just before the slaughter began it was spoken, "We are Avid. We come in peace."

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Old 10-27-2014, 05:27 PM
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And that's what PR are for, so they should get in here and do what they are paid to do.
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It's almost as if they have no business training at all! I don't know what this is supposed to be! ;-)

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Old 10-28-2014, 02:45 AM
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I wish there'd been a third question on the PTE poll - "based on available information and pricing, do you intend to update pro tools on the new subscription plan". Options for "yes, pay annually / one time update only / stick with current version". That seems like most obvious question really...
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Old 10-28-2014, 04:10 AM
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I wish there'd been a third question on the PTE poll - "based on available information and pricing, do you intend to update pro tools on the new subscription plan". Options for "yes, pay annually / one time update only / stick with current version". That seems like most obvious question really...
Be patient Gary It's coming soon...
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:41 AM
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Ambiguity creates its own solutions.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:49 AM
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I've just installed Logic Pro X to try and wean myself off Pro Tools "just in case"! I started off on C-Lab creator all the way to Logic 6, paid a fortune out to keep that up to date, paid a fortune for pro tools and all the updates to v11, waiting to see what their next move will be....
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:54 AM
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After $30K and 16 years in PT ---

I just recorded my first song in Logic yesterday - on to mixing it today
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Be patient Gary It's coming soon...
Good news, Russ - that WILL be an interesting poll.

*cough* Guy *cough*
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After $30K and 16 years in PT ---

I just recorded my first song in Logic yesterday - on to mixing it today
I switched to pro tools 10 years ago from Logic.

I know going back will be pain. Instinctual finger movements will become annoyances and sources of frustration for a while before they become acclimated to the new commands.

The thought process is a bit different, just as it makes sense to me in PT now it didn't in the beginning simply because it different so to me at the time seems CRAZY...

But I will also be heading back probably full implementation would be a year or so as we all have pending projects and what not..

the important part for me is that it doesn't seem like a step down, just over the the side.

And Mainly- my go to plug ins are available in AU bit I'll miss Massenberg.

Logic EQ just got a significant rewrite but Fab Filter will most likely be the new go to. Again just different not step down in quality.

The fact that avid seems to either not know these facts or does and still chooses to bank their future on major facilities who CAN"T switch DAW's, boggles the mind.

Im not 100% out but on the way...
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