track metering does not show panning

[clausiii]

Hi!
when you pan a stereo track, the meters of this track do not show it. And it happens when i set metering post fader. The only logical cause can only be that panning is post metering in PT? Or do i miss something?

[clausiii]

Aaaah, got it! opening the floating fader window of a track and expanding it opens additional meters of the output bus of the track!

[mesaone]

Can you screenshot it? I can't recall offhand what additional meters you have.

EDIT: nevermind, I see what you mean. The output metering for the track's destination.

[clausiii]

yes, exactly!
but you see the whole summed bus on the right meters, not only the part of the track routed and panned to it!

[mesaone]

okay, I thought you meant that you had found a way to meter each track post-pan. That would be nice.

[TNM]

So i've been searching all day for a way to get post pan metering.. i was sure i was just missing something.. it turns out you can't? really?

This is frustrating.

What is it about daw devs that find an issue with post pan metering? I do not get it.. it's the same in S1.. and motu actually removed it in DP9.5, after years of it being post pan! Now it's pre pan, and they have advertised it as a feature!

So what am i missing? Am i that dumb for wanting post pan metering, so i can see the stereo interaction as far as volume level goes, on a per track basis?

I know the work around is to use a pan plugin.. but really Avid.. give me a break.. pro tools has proper panners unlike most daws and those that use balance pots.. and i want to be able to meter them..

PLEASE give us this simple option!

obviously there is a uses for pre pan metering, otherwise so many daw's wouldn't offer it, or in some cases such as Avid, make it mandatory.. but i have absolutely no need for pre pan metering..

anyone else with me?

[Drew Mazurek]

Originally Posted by TNM

So i've been searching all day for a way to get post pan metering.. i was sure i was just missing something.. it turns out you can't? really?

This is frustrating.

What is it about daw devs that find an issue with post pan metering? I do not get it.. it's the same in S1.. and motu actually removed it in DP9.5, after years of it being post pan! Now it's pre pan, and they have advertised it as a feature!

So what am i missing? Am i that dumb for wanting post pan metering, so i can see the stereo interaction as far as volume level goes, on a per track basis?

I know the work around is to use a pan plugin.. but really Avid.. give me a break.. pro tools has proper panners unlike most daws and those that use balance pots.. and i want to be able to meter them..

PLEASE give us this simple option!

obviously there is a uses for pre pan metering, otherwise so many daw's wouldn't offer it, or in some cases such as Avid, make it mandatory.. but i have absolutely no need for pre pan metering..

anyone else with me?

Why do you want a meter to show you what the Pan knob already is? That's the entire point of the knob, to adjust and show pan position.

[Drew Mazurek]

Alrighty. Hopefully someone else will chime in.

[dg27]

I'm very confused by this string.

I was taught to use pre-fader metering when tracking to see the actual signal level when you're recording.

I was taught to use post-fader metering when mixing, to see the actual effects of plugins on your individual track and mix.

Are you guys saying that this is not the recommended procedure?

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by dg27

I'm very confused by this string.

I was taught to use pre-fader metering when tracking to see the actual signal level when you're recording.

I was taught to use post-fader metering when mixing, to see the actual effects of plugins on your individual track and mix.

Are you guys saying that this is not the recommended procedure?

Not me; I prefer working as you were taught. It's why I very often have a metering plugin as my last insert if whatever plugin I'm using doesn't have it's own metering. Would love to have this as switchable.