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Old 10-19-2017, 09:46 AM
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In the middle of a session and Avid kills my VCAs with the update to 12.8.2 SERIOUSLY AVID!?!? WOW! This company is just literally driving people to other DAWs! This isn't something that ANY working producer/mixer can simply wait on a new release for. And tell me how they release a piece of software with this kind of an oversight? Why hasn't Avid acknowledged their SNAFU to the public yet and made an announcement that they will be fixing it ASAP? I would just like to know how a company that is already under such scrutiny misses things like this? I mean they know they are under a microscope and that many people are leaving for other DAWs right? Do they care?
See http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=394471

Definitely a problem that should have been caught before release. Best practice is to not upgrade to a new release the second it drops, especially if you have deadlines.

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Old 10-19-2017, 10:47 AM
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What is strange for me is that the HD and vanilla apps are only one. If I plug my own iLok in a computer that host a vanilla PT, it start as HD, with all HD features. I just did it today.
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:55 AM
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What is strange for me is that the HD and vanilla apps are only one. If I plug my own iLok in a computer that host a vanilla PT, it start as HD, with all HD features. I just did it today.
thats right .. your HD iLok license just unlocks the HD features ..
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:58 AM
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thats right .. your HD iLok license just unlocks the HD features ..
Then what would be the reasoning behind VCA working now HD onlyif it's the same installer?
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Then what would be the reasoning behind VCA working now HD onlyif it's the same installer?
There must be some kind of condition somewhere in 12.8.2 that prevents VCAs from "unlocking" completely without the HD license. VCAs are still there, like a demo with no "save as", sort of.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:19 AM
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I did not renew my vanilla subscription this September because for a long time now, Avid has been collecting subscriptions and churning out a shoddy product. There's always something broken, that was working well before. And customers have to pay them to fumble about trying to get things right. It's not the money, just the principle of the thing.

I can't believe this level of carelessness and irresponsibility from a company of Avid's stature. Do they not test what they do before releasing it? How can there be such a glaring oversight, and no-one even notices it.

Just waiting patiently till they get it right, then I'll probably buy Pro Tools again if there are solid features worth buying. For now I'm staying put at 12.6.1 and 12.8, which work reasonably well for my system and workflow.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:34 AM
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I remember a time, not so long ago when VCA's were an HD only feature.
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Question for people long into pro tools and their release schedules.

Do you guys know if bugs like this, breaking previous functionality, have been addresed in the form of patch promptly after the realease or do they log them for the next scheduled update (12.8.3 in our case)?
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Question for people long into pro tools and their release schedules.

Do you guys know if bugs like this, breaking previous functionality, have been addresed in the form of patch promptly after the realease or do they log them for the next scheduled update (12.8.3 in our case)?
Scheduled updates for last known bugs, but I think until now, none has been so seriously a dealbreaker as this one, so my guess would be they will fix-it soon with an interim update, or replacing the 12.8.2 installer with a new build.
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Question for people long into pro tools and their release schedules.

Do you guys know if bugs like this, breaking previous functionality, have been addresed in the form of patch promptly after the realease or do they log them for the next scheduled update (12.8.3 in our case)?
Yes, in the past when a substantial bug was detected and squashed, an interim release was made available. It was called a "CS" release. I'm relatively confident we will see something shortly.
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