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Old 03-26-2004, 10:53 AM
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Default 888 compared to 192

Has anyone done a direct comparisent of the 888/24 IO and the 192 IO?
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Old 03-26-2004, 11:19 AM
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Ok no replies, let me stir it up a bit. I recently did a mix with my partner "lemix" and compared the d-19 20 bit converter to the 192, and the d-19 kills it, much warmer and better seperation. I currently am using a Mix plus system with the 888/24 IO and cant find a reason to upgrade to HD with the 192 that doesnt sound any better than a 10 year old 20bit converter. Further more , the 96k IO is reported to be the biggest peice of shyt that digi has ever released. (reports say). Can anyone comment on the quality of the 888, 192, and 96k IO.
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Old 03-26-2004, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: 888 compared to 192

Don't sugar coat it, say what you really mean.

The best reason to upgrade is to stay current on the software and to have access to new products that are only designed for HD and Accel. If you're still happy with your mix system, then keep it. I still have mine, but I feel that things are starting to change. I don't really know when I'll make the move, but I plan on putting it off as long as I can. It's like buying a car. You come out better if you can drive it for a few years after the loan is paid off, but when it's time to trade, it's time to trade.

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Old 03-26-2004, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: 888 compared to 192

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Ok no replies, let me stir it up a bit. I recently did a mix with my partner "lemix" and compared the d-19 20 bit converter to the 192, and the d-19 kills it, much warmer and better seperation. I currently am using a Mix plus system with the 888/24 IO and cant find a reason to upgrade to HD with the 192 that doesnt sound any better than a 10 year old 20bit converter. Further more , the 96k IO is reported to be the biggest peice of shyt that digi has ever released. (reports say). Can anyone comment on the quality of the 888, 192, and 96k IO.
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Can't agree with you there. I find the 192 much smoother in the high freq. and less boxy in the mid freq., not to mention the overload protection, expanded i/o, and the real-time samplerate conversion If you want, I'll gladly trade you an 888/24 for your 192. I'd like another.
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Old 03-26-2004, 02:33 PM
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"I currently am using a Mix plus system with the 888/24 IO and cant find a reason to upgrade to HD "

HD as a system sounds A LOT better than MIx, according to most folks. A converter comparision is only half the battle...

For the record, I'm extremely happy with my 192's...

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Old 03-26-2004, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: 888 compared to 192

I did a project for a clinet 2 years ago on Mix. (The client is not picky at all just fast in & out demos) They recently did another small project - now with HD. The guy is 65 years old and could hear the improvement between HD and Mix.
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The difference between an 888 and a 192 is obvious to almost any listener. The 192 is definately MUCH better sounding in every way, even at 44.1.
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Old 03-26-2004, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: 888 compared to 192

But if you're using Apogees or the like in your Mix system, I wonder how much of a difference one would hear...?
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Old 04-01-2004, 10:10 AM
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Thats cool all, the only thing is, I havent heard anyone say they did a direct comparisent with the same source at the same time with the same mics etc and tell me the pros and cons off either I/O. Thanks guys, I hope I am not coming across as a dick, I am smilling while writting this.I am also considering getting a clock generator and see if there is an improvement in sound. So you can see my dilemna. Do I spend $7000 for an 192 I/O that will improve the sound 40%, or do I spend $2000 for a good clock and improve the sound 20%.
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Old 04-01-2004, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: 888 compared to 192

I have A/B'd them, using the same mics, speakers, preamps, instruments/singer and so on. The sound quality of the 192 is in itself a good argument for upgrading to HD. Better stereo imaging, more depth, more natural overtones, less dull, less harsh, 192 sounds more 'expensive' etc etc etc. More presence. I compared the 888|24 with 192, both @ 44.1.
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