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Old 08-19-2010, 08:25 PM
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Default 2010 mac pro 2.4Ghz 8 core vs 3.33Ghz 6 core

Deciding on getting one or the other. My main question is does Pro Tools really take advantage of all available cores and hyper threading?

-If so then 2.4 8 core makes more sense and 200 dollars cheaper.

-If not then 3.33 6 core makes more sense.

Called Apple and was even more confused after.
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:39 PM
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Does anyone know if PT 8.0.4 takes advantage of Hyper Threading?
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Default Re: 2010 mac pro 2.4Ghz 8 core vs 3.33Ghz 6 core

From what I understand all single processors have faster and larger non sharing backside cache. For rendering this may be faster. Not having seen these new macs it's a tossup.
The 3.33 has the faster ram but only 4 slots.
Your stats indicate a 2.93 MP so unless this is another machine the change would be minimal for Pro Tools.
However the new video cards are what peak my interest.
Hyper Threading is a good question, not only for Pro Tools but plug-ins as well.

BTW the 3.33 6 core and 2.66 12 core made it to my short list.
For 16 GB ram only the 3.33 was dramatic enough to seek 3rd party rem replacement.
(Toss 3GB Apple and replace to 16GB) . The 12 core 2.66 ram was competitive.
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Reminds me of a few small-time producers I've known...
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what's 200 bucks when it comes to a major work expenditure?
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For an extra $200 I would take the 8 core. The future of computers appears to be more and more cores, so that's what software is going to be written for in the years to come. Something else to look at is number of RAM slots. I believe the 8 core is actually two 4 core CPU's, each with 4 slots of ram. The 4 and 6 core models are a single 4-core or 6 core CPU, with only 4 RAM slots. So for an extra $200 you will have double the RAM capacity.
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For an extra $200 I would take the 8 core. The future of computers appears to be more and more cores, so that's what software is going to be written for in the years to come. Something else to look at is number of RAM slots. I believe the 8 core is actually two 4 core CPU's, each with 4 slots of ram. The 4 and 6 core models are a single 4-core or 6 core CPU, with only 4 RAM slots. So for an extra $200 you will have double the RAM capacity.
Couldn't agree more about the RAM. However, as of today, even Apple hasn't utilized 8 cores (16 hyperthreads) successfully with Logic - they perform only marginally better than 4 core models... which is disturbing. Click
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For an extra $200 I would take the 8 core. The future of computers appears to be more and more cores, so that's what software is going to be written for in the years to come. Something else to look at is number of RAM slots. I believe the 8 core is actually two 4 core CPU's, each with 4 slots of ram. The 4 and 6 core models are a single 4-core or 6 core CPU, with only 4 RAM slots. So for an extra $200 you will have double the RAM capacity.
The 8 core is 200 hundred dollars cheaper
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The 8 core is 200 hundred dollars cheaper
Then it's a no brainer to me. My guess is you aren't going to notice the difference in RAM speed, and RAM amount always trumps RAM speed anyways. There are plenty of other things that become bottlenecks long before RAM.
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From what I understand all single processors have faster and larger non sharing backside cache. For rendering this may be faster. Not having seen these new macs it's a tossup.
The 3.33 has the faster ram but only 4 slots.
Your stats indicate a 2.93 MP so unless this is another machine the change would be minimal for Pro Tools.
However the new video cards are what peak my interest.
Hyper Threading is a good question, not only for Pro Tools but plug-ins as well.

BTW the 3.33 6 core and 2.66 12 core made it to my short list.
For 16 GB ram only the 3.33 was dramatic enough to seek 3rd party rem replacement.
(Toss 3GB Apple and replace to 16GB) . The 12 core 2.66 ram was competitive.
Yeah I have a single 2.93 and thought I was good but. I was working in another Studio with a similar set up but they had a 2.26 8 core and it smoked mine. So I didn't want to make that mistake again going for the higher Ghz but less cores.
I mix a lot of Pop and when you put AT Evo on 40 tracks you need more and more power. My HD2 maxes out real quick. So I start converting the Plugs to RTAS
I read all these mixed things like the Plug Ins only use one core. So I loaded up my Activity Monitor to see and it shows Pro Tools but not individual Plugins. Is ther another way to test core use by plug ins?
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