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Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!
ProTools definitely has sub-ticks, no "belief" necessary. Just zoom right in, draw a note, and then copy and move the note to the next step (1 sample). Two sounds will trigger, 1 sample apart, but they will both look like they're at the same position on the bars and beats display.
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Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!
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This sample division that does not show up on the counter set to Bars|Beats does open up for why the 'sample rounding' bug affects midi notes & clips. Because as I have said before with projects created set to ticks, having perfect bar length midi clips (zoomed in to check) when duplicated, repeated or alt + drag randomly do not align correctly at certain tempos - they are out by what would seem to be the sample division. This makes it a sample rounding bug to me.
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Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!
I found another possible reason why it happens. When I zoom to max in at the end of a midi clip and click on it, the clip become totally selected (black) but as soon as I try to move it for placing it to another location (or for copying by pressing alt) there is the last part of the clip that is no longer selected. It seems that not the whole clip remain selected as soon as I try to move or copy it. This happens randomly and only at a certain position of the session. Instead if I duplicate it once I am sure that it is first start and end quantized by trimming its boundaries this issue does not happen. Today I also tried to manage midi by recording in note view and converted the midi section in group. It seems to work fine, but I have to investigate more.
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Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!
Yes, but it seems that is a grabbing issue. If you copy by doing with cmnd+c and cmnd+v it does not happen
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Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!
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I will try the copy & paste shortcuts but for large arrangements to quickly move/copy clips around that is too long winded.
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Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!
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I don't think I've ever noticed this not being an issue. It's my understanding that the reason this occurs is that Pro Tools is a sample based software by default (as opposed to a tick based software). The reason for the rounding issue is that an round number of samples doesn't always fit perfectly within a measure. It's like trying to have a round number of millimeters with an inch -- It's just not possible. So... when duplicating or repeating bars, you have to switch the track to tick based instead of sample based to avoid this issue. |
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Re: Sample Rounding Issue!!!!
Here are two clips showing how it works in my case:
http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...acaa478164b581 Audio even in ticks mode seems to be trimmed at the end once in a while. |
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