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Re: We need a Thunderbolt HDX system
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No, Thunderbolt (Light Peak) WAS developed by Apple. It is because they don't want their boxes opened up and messed with. It was pushed onto Intel so the industry would accept it as being an open standard, and not Apples. Read: http://9to5mac.com/2009/09/26/intels...tually-apples/ The second paragraph addresses what I have heard about the development from several sources. |
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Well, that's ONE way of working... ...Or, grabbing my laptop with the DSP box, in my suitcase, off to work on the beach to get my work done. Change is sometime difficult, I know... Currently we HAVE your way of working. I just think there are some people out their that might want to work the way I want to work... |
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And there's no reason why it couldn't be a powerful tablet instead of a laptop down the road. It's only a matter of time until powerful tablets start appearing with thunderbolt. On the PC side, we'll definitely see i7 based tablets, hence the ability to run Pro Tools in W8. Then there's the benefit of just plugging into any Mac, PC, laptop, tablet etc that has thunderbolt. That's a big plus on it's own right there. HDX anywhere, without the bulky towers and PCI cards. I say bring it on, as it's a realistic use for a thunderbolt based DSP I/O box. Shane
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I've noticed you said that you weren't going to be held off by boxes. So you're going to mix on the go, sure.. with headphones (cause obviously you wont bring studio grade monitors with you on the beach since you don't want to be tied up to big boxes right?).. err....in places that are potentially very noisy, busy and cramped...errrr. That's good for editing, heck I do it myself for that on a laptop from time to time when I have to. But for that you don't need the power of HDX. It comes back to what I was saying before. You really want to spend that much money on a system and use it somewhere unsafe (beach... subway etc)? Sure you got your logic chip set straight...(cricket chirps?!?). Oh yeah speaking of cables going to this and that.. well you're still going to have cables going to this and to that.. Cables going to your hdx chassis, cables going to your monitors.. going to external HDD drives.. so you're just replacing different types of cables, by one type of cables. But your video monitors still will need their power supply cables, you're still going to need to daisy chain them with your other devices that use thunderbolts, so that's still one cable per daisy chain. Basically, the only difference in what you're saying is that your using a computer that is.. smaller. Cause none of the rest changes. In fact.. by using thunderbolt the way you suggest.. you end up with more cables laying around.. see, with a tower.. at least you can place the video card inside.. with the hdx card.. with the extra hdd's. While with a laptop.. that's cables and cables laying around. Place it (tower) in a iso booth. and voila no more noise from it nor from your other units. You still can have them at hands reach easily. Now all of this is pretty much semantics and we could go around arguing about it all week long. Fact is, Avid doesn't have to developed that technology. Magma is, and they are pretty much the best out there for such thing. So much that Avid which had it's own expansions chassis at the time which wasn't very reliable, dropped them and started to recommend Magma for that use. Magma has a product that will be out soon, that will fit exactly what you want, therefore Avid doesn't have to waste it's time developing this, when they could work on other things. It's called prioritizing. |
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the laptop is for editing n' over-dubbin'... at least that's what it is for me... the tower gets the big boy.!! hd-native at the moment...
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/e...ntel-could-be/ or http://www.tuaw.com/2009/09/26/is-ap...ak-connectivi/ Both articles were printed way before the Apple page you referenced. Steve Jobs wanted Intel to "own" the project. There were many reasons for this, but I digress... The point of my whole thread was to get some of you to start thinking that maybe working with BIG BOXES in a STUDIO is NOT the only way to do things with recording, editing, and creating. The new MacBook Pro Laptops blows away ANY computer used with ANY TDM system of past. Back in those days we all recorded many professional high quality projects that were seen on TV, in the movies, and heard on the radio. These projects usually consisted of a room full of gear with miles of wire and multiple systems to get the job done. Fast forward to today, and we are being handed tools that are readily portable and even MORE powerful than the big boxes of yesteryear. What are we to do? We seem still stuck in working exactly the same way we always did, filling these big rooms with gear to show how "pro" we are. All I am suggesting is an "alternative" way of working by allowing these new mega laptops to be greeted with a front end WORTH their weight in power. I do not think any of the USB 2 or Firewire 800 boxes are valid in this new paradigm. In a year or two we will be having 8 to 12 core laptops. I also think interface boxes without some raw DSP is not worth much. I already have too many of these boxes. I am looking for a High Quality AVID box that is an all-in one portable solution. Why should I put cards in a Magma box and add an interface? From an electrical engineering standpoint the waste of power and duplicate resources for that to happen is just plain silly. Other companies are jumping on the bandwagon I am writing about. Universal Audio is going that route, MOTU has been there for years, Presonus boards have eaten Yamaha's lunch... I think Avid knows there is a market for what I am talking about. I also suspect they already have a design for what I am writing about. I just don't understand the need for some of you to let them off the hook by denying what I see as part of the future of recording... |
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Re: We need a Thunderbolt HDX system
I'd love to see a Thunderbolt Omni with HDX dsp option like the UA Apollo...make a great pro portable system. In fact it would pretty much be a full studio replacement for me :)
My 2c worth anyhoo..
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