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Re: Does PT12 bring value
The forum here represents a fairly small percentage of total consumers and has been pretty vocal about this issue. Avid's problem will be the larger, silent number that just goes away...
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Re: Does PT12 bring value
or the guy like me , who has a dedicated imac, with a fixed os/PT combination that works perfectly and WILL NEVER upgrade to a service plan, monthly fee thing....this is the paradox the guys like adobe avid and FCP have created, they made it work too good , and now no one REALLY needs anymore stuff, so to continue on they either destroy it and start fresh , like FCP, or they go for subscription models and hope enough suckers jump on board....
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I've had so much valid and working hardware and software forcibly resigned due to these tactics. |
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This year my habit of bringing industry newcomers into the world of ProTools - helping them understand the app and how it works - has changed. My new default advice is: if you value your paycheck do *not* buy into ProTools. The hidden fees will consume you. |
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The $0.25 per hammer would cover it for the length of the one year warranty. And most anybody with a statistical background could tell you the percentage of hammers that would have zero warranty returns, one warranty return, two warranty returns, etc., for the one year "fixed term" warranty. You could then arrive at an "amount per hammer" you needed for reserves. Of course, you would have to maintain those reserves. But...suppose the hammer was guaranteed forever...this would be an "open ended" warranty. Keep in mind that, even though they may have been bought and sold several times, there are tool companies in the US that have been around for a century or more (some in Europe even longer). So, how would you calculate how many hammers you would have to replace in "X" years if you had no way of knowing how log "X" is? How would you calculate the "warranty return percentages" over an unknown period of time? How would you know how much of a "reserve" amount was needed? And what if you had received some bad information from your accountants, and had not been keeping any reserves at all? From what I have read and understand, Avid found themselves in some or all of this position. The service plan creates a "fixed term" warranty, Avid could then calculate what reserves are required, and, now that they know they are required, they could then start maintaining them...keep in mind that Avid did replace their accounting firm while all of this was going on. And while one may have existed, how many of us knew about Avid's "End of Life/Service/Sale/whatever" policy prior to the "Pro Control / Control 24" issue? Did it really even matter before then? As I said, you are part way there, but you have to look at the whole equation...
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And Making bigger toolboxes with more refined, efficient, lighter, faster tools and just charge customers for the newer product? Or is that too simple and logical to apply?
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Or...how many Pro Tools licenses are you planning to buy for $100,000 US each? Especially since, while it does include everything everybody else asked for, it doesn't include the one thing you really wanted? Avid provides a product that their target market feel meets their needs sufficiently to justify the price they are willing to pay. And, like it or not, that's the end of that story...
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Regardless of feelings, the fact is that perpetual licenses remain perpetual. My iLok holds licenses, not feelings
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