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Avid's Track Record with Protools.
To expand on Touchwood Studio's thread. Here is the progression on all fronts. Value for money has definitely evaporated.
Pro Tools 8 added 125 new features - Upgrade (7->8): $250 HD, $150 LE Pro Tools 9 added 50 New Features - Upgrade (8->9): $349 HD, $249 LE to Vanilla Pro tools 10 added 45 New Features - Upgrade (9->10): $999 HD, $299 Vanilla Pro tools 11 Added 39 New features - Upgrade (10->11): $599 HD, $299 Vanilla Protools 12/13/14. Features? $599 a year HD, $199 a year Vanilla.
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Re: Avid's Track Record with Protools.
The bigger question is how many new features that most find value in?
11 very few 10 some 9 none for HD 8 a bunch 7 a bunch
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Re: Avid's Track Record with Protools.
9 actually had the huge hardware independant upgrade. Major upgrade. HD users good put some of their projects on any machine. This should have been implemented years ago.
10 had the clip gain feature which Nuendo had for 10 years or so. It was huge for me though. HD had the disc cache feature. That's huge but I feel it should be in the vanilla version. 11 had offline render which is probably the single most needed upgrade. I always feel like I'm being taken advantage of regardless.
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Re: Avid's Track Record with Protools.
10/11 have been huge for me. I wouldn't like to not have Disc Cache just to name one.
(PT9 was nothing for me. Kept using 8.1.1 for real work until PT10 was released...)
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Re: Avid's Track Record with Protools.
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Thats prob cause you chose to stick w Avid Hardware... PT9 was HUGE for those who wanted off the Avid hardware bus!
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Re: Avid's Track Record with Protools.
So hard to even remember what was added -- like V5 we got stereo tracks! Ooooh
But - for me 11 with new audio engine 64bit and offline bounce has been great for me 10 - Clip gain was the biggie here - wow - $1000 for that! Disc Cache looks key but on a fast machine I find it makes no difference. 9 - Channel Strip was great but the rest - nothing for HD 8- too long ago to remember!
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Used only HD3 systems until moved to PT11 and have used a HDN TB system at home ever since. Though, still using TDM rigs at live gigs...
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Re: Avid's Track Record with Protools.
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Being able to use coreaudio drivers, 64 bit app & offline bounce have been the 3 biggest for me in recent years. The HD8 upgrade was the most remarkable in turns of sweeping changes for me though. Simple stuff - Template options. A complete overhaul in physical appearance. Track/channel colouring. Increases in DSP efficiency (effectively doubling the voice count of TDM). Increasing inserts to 10 slots per channel. Adding ADC to sends and bussing. Playlist feature. New Midi editor, etc.
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Re: Avid's Track Record with Protools.
And although I couldn't be sure, I would guess the rewrite to 64 bit was a larger undertaking than all of those other updates combined in terms of code and man hours. Probably hard to judge feature offerings simply by the pound when we don't really know what it took to implement.
If all goes according to their plan it seems we'll see many new features added to PT throughout the year and 12 is just the vehicle for this. here's hoping anyway. |
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That is ultimately irrelevant from my perspective. Its like an audio engineer saying "we have to charge you considerably more to do the same thing as the studio down the road... because it takes us a whole lot longer to do it".
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