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Split snake options...
So I've been racking my brain for a while trying to find the best split snake option without breaking the bank. I know a few of you guys are using your rigs for mobile recording; so what are you using? Rackmount split? or Drop snake?
I am NOT, absolutely NOT, interested in a passive split. I've priced out building a split with Jensen transformers, but it's WAY out of my price range. What I'm looking to do is get a 8ch split for now with the ability to move up to 16ch split if things take off (but that would also require 8ch more of pre's for the rig). When I'm not using the rig at mobile folk festival remote gigs, I want to use the split at home in the studio to split to my Nuendo rig with a 16ch mixer front end for drum monitoring. I've looked into the ART S8, which is a 2way 8ch isolated split that is affordable( http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Split8/ ). I just hate how the inputs are on the front panel. I'm still leaning towards this option regardless, but have an email out to Whirlwind, ProCo, and Rapco to see what they have in the custom realm. A friend of mine that does FOH for some heavier hitters suggested Radial products, but they are extremely expensive. As previously mentioned, I'm interested to hear what some of my peers here are using. Cheers,
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Re: Split snake options...
I think you will find those other companies are in the same price range
Would you consider used? Try some rental companies to see if they are selling some old gear. For the record Transformers are passive devices.
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Where I'm located (literally the middle of British Columbia, Canada), our stages have substandard power setups (let alone dedicated power distribution). This makes it hard to find 'backline' or 'rental' companies within 600km's that are looking to get rid of their isolated splits. I've reverted to calling on my friends in bigger centres (Toronto, Vancouver) to keep their eyes peeled, to no avail. So, I'm curious to see what PT users are using in their setups and getting transparent results. I do appreciate your input; be it passive, passive/isolated or active :P Cheers.
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Re: Split snake options...
Don't want to be too fuzzy, but transformer isolated splitters are passive. I reckon what you don't want is parallel split?
Both, parallel and transformer isolated splits will result in a degradation of sound due to one microphone source driving two or more loads (=mic-preamps). Parallel splits can also lead to ground issues, this is where trannies help to isolate the loads galvanically. Every proper solution better than parallel will cost you $$$. Have you got a chance to compare the ART splitter against a Jensen or Lundahl? There is a reason why so many engineers decide for the later options. You may want to consider an active split. If you have preamps on stage you can split their outputs parallel without any worries about loading etc. Ground may still be an issue. However, some FOH engineers sh*t a brick when someone tries to plug something active between their console and the mics. I don't see any cheap possibilities that also sounds excellent. Sorry. For your studio, don't use a mic split for drum-monitoring. Give the musician a split from a line source. This way you don't loose signal quality. Hope this helps. Best, Jan
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I use such preamps that can output both analog and digital. I use analog for the live gig and record the digital signal. So the preamp splits it "for free". Of course you need to buy extra converters if the boxes do not have any. What I use is listed in my profile. Of course; as someone so eloquently said, some FOH engineers create bricks if they have to accept line level inputs to their console and tweak the preamp level from another rack...
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Thanks for the tips guys, so no one is using a Radial splitter, or ART splitter or the like? You're all dealing with digital boards or have higher end pre's with direct outs? Or just not splitting the signal at all? Off to work in the sun
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Re: Split snake options...
I ended up going with a custom built split from Rapco, they build splits for CBC and CTV up here Canada. My Canadian friends, if you're looking for cables and such; I went through Slygoosecables. Great deals.
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