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Old 12-07-2008, 04:33 PM
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Default Quality of sound on ipods and other brands

Maybe this is a stupid question and then sorry about wasting your time with such a stupid thing but this sales person made me question my knowledge.

CD's have a set sound quality and it depends on your speakers how much you hear of it. The cd player either plays the cd or it doesn't. With MP3's the sound quality is much less than that of a cd and again bad speakers can make it worse. To my mind the MP3 player does not decrease the sound quality when it's a cheap player. Or am I totally wrong about this?

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edit: did some research and yes apparently it does. But isn't that determined by internal eq settings of the player.

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Old 12-07-2008, 05:21 PM
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Maybe this is a stupid question and then sorry about wasting your time with such a stupid thing but this sales person made me question my knowledge.

CD's have a set sound quality and it depends on your speakers how much you hear of it. The cd player either plays the cd or it doesn't. With MP3's the sound quality is much less than that of a cd and again bad speakers can make it worse. To my mind the MP3 player does not decrease the sound quality when it's a cheap player. Or am I totally wrong about this?

Cheers,

edit: did some research and yes apparently it does. But isn't that determined by internal eq settings of the player.

www.reverbnation/junemoris

For what its worth! most good quality MP3 players (ipods etc) can play full quality .aiff or .wav files, so there's no need to compress (destroy) the songs as MP3 files. unless you want 1000.000 songs on your player.

many things contribute to quality playback!
digital converts
amplifier
quality of the mp3 file conversion
earbuds used to listen

Yes you get what you pay for! cheap MP3 players will have lower quality of all above.

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Old 12-07-2008, 05:33 PM
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Hello June,

you need to fix the URL in your signature — it should be “http://www.reverbnation.com/junemoris”

IHTH.

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Old 12-08-2008, 12:02 AM
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Hi,
you're right MP3 files don't have a fixed quality. But even 128 kbps files built with an actual version of the codec sound very good these days. The number one reason for the decrease of sound quality you get from a MP3 player is the headphones. Even cheaper MP3 players sound much better with appropriate headphones.

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Old 12-08-2008, 02:52 AM
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Let’s not kid ourselves…

the better the playback system the clearer mp3’s loss of quality.

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Old 12-08-2008, 09:35 AM
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Let’s not kid ourselves…

the better the playback system the clearer mp3’s loss of quality.
In other words, it sucks less? ;-)
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Old 12-08-2008, 04:51 PM
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In other words, it sucks less? ;-)
Quite the opposite. The better the playback system, the more mp3’s limitations are exposed.

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Old 12-08-2008, 07:42 PM
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For what its worth! most good quality MP3 players (ipods etc) can play full quality .aiff or .wav files, so there's no need to compress (destroy) the songs as MP3 files. unless you want 1000.000 songs on your player.

many things contribute to quality playback!
digital converts
amplifier
quality of the mp3 file conversion
earbuds used to listen

Yes you get what you pay for! cheap MP3 players will have lower quality of all above.

Chris
Chris of all the things you list isn't that done in the computer so if any loss of quality it's already there b4 the mp3 goes to the player. Transferring files happens similar for all players that use usb 2.0 so there can be no quality loss there. So 1 thing left is the amp. Does and Mp3 player have a built in amp? If so that explains the cheaper players have a crap amp in it.

Thanks Andre for pointing out.
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Old 12-08-2008, 07:48 PM
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Quite the opposite. The better the playback system, the more mp3’s limitations are exposed.
That makes sense but as I replied to Chris, isn't it a tiny little box with just software? Or wrong? I really have no clue what's inside. lol.

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Old 12-09-2008, 01:56 AM
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I think the issues come when you decode the mp3 to get to a line out or headphones. It could be encoded (or ripped) on the highest spec system in the world and transferred to a £15 mp3 player from a catalogue but as soon as you press play, the unit decodes the information and that's where any weaknesses will be introduced. As mentioned earler playing a badly decoded output into a high quality system will expose any problems mush more than, say a mobile phone speaker would. However, a good system, iPod for example, will decode the information a lot better and you will get a good output, still not as good as .aiff or .wav of course but a high bit rate and good encoding will sound very good none the less.
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