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Old 09-08-2009, 01:31 AM
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Default Why is Time Shift so horrible?

One of the first things I do after deleting preferences is to change the default Time stretching plug in to the old TCE.

It has artifacts, but it's a lot smoother! Time Shift always leaves horrible clicks and weird pitch changing effects. I haven't found one application where Time Shift was better to use for quick audio region stretching...

Who agrees/disagrees with me?
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Old 09-08-2009, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: Why is Time Shift so horrible?

I think elastic audio is supposed to be better for that. Have you tried it ?
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:40 AM
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I agree Time Shift does not produce great results for me. I saw a very good tutorial on Elastic Audio and get much better results than Time Shift.

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Old 09-08-2009, 09:47 AM
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Time Shift takes a little more getting used to, but it can be great on certain things when the settings are appropriate to the material. Does a great job on voice if you take the time to experiment with mode and range, and don't try to push it too far. +/- 3 semitones is about the limit unless you can put up with noticeable artifacts. The source material must be fairly clean, too. If you've got lots of room tone, RFI, or hum, forget it.

I use it in fixing old spoken word material where sometimes the speaker says the wrong thing - like gets a name wrong or something, and I need to find the right one elsewhere and pop it in. Usually needs a bit of EQ and pitch shift to fit well. Time Shift is brilliant for that. The old Pitch Shift plugin doesn't work for that at all because it shifts the formant with the pitch.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:16 AM
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One of the first things I do after deleting preferences is to change the default Time stretching plug in to the old TCE.

It has artifacts, but it's a lot smoother! Time Shift always leaves horrible clicks and weird pitch changing effects. I haven't found one application where Time Shift was better to use for quick audio region stretching...

Who agrees/disagrees with me?
With regards to those clicks, make sure you have the latest version of Time Shift. There was a problem with an earlier release.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:33 AM
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With regards to those clicks, make sure you have the latest version of Time Shift. There was a problem with an earlier release.
I doubt it's an "earlier release"... I have Pro Tools 8.0.1
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:49 AM
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Ahh yes, didn't read your sig unfortunately.

By the way the x-form option in elastic audio consistently out performs the other available algos in Protools for me.
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:23 PM
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Oddbod -

Where can I see this Video ???

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