002 compared to Command8

[Jsalam112]

002 is firewire and the Command8 is USB. Both have MIDI and are portable.

I own a 002 for my LE system. I like everything about it with the exception of it lacking a talkback function.
I also use it in satndalone mode frequently with my HD3 Accel system when it's at home. At that point it's a little frustrating because I find myself reaching for faders, buttons and knobs that do not control the system. It's basically my volume control.

The Command8 would appear to rectify this in it's ability to run LE and TDM systems. It also has a talkback function and looks a little more like my Control 24 (in some respects). Downside...no mic pres or line ins.

I can rig a talkback system for the 002 and I can bring mic pres for the Command8.
They both have an upside and a down side. I have to weigh those out.

My question(s):
- Is USB fast enough to handle TDM comfortably?
- Is USB better, worse, the same as firewire in this application?
- Is owning both in order to handle LE and/or TDM along with portability a little on the overkill side?
- Does selling the 002 in order to purchase the Command8 make more sense.

[silverlode]

I have never used an 002 or a Command|8, but I know that the USB/Firewire comparison is meaningless. The 002 (and 002r) use Firewire because they need the bandwidth for audio and MIDI i/o. The Command|8 only sends and receives MIDI, so USB provides more than enough throughput. So the Command|8 USB doens't "handle TDM" or LE for that matter. All it needs to do is send and receive fader and pan positions, etc. It works the same for TDM as for LE. It's just a control surface, not an audio interface for your computer. The 002 is both.

Sorry if that's worded strangely...does it make sense?

[theMeanTeam]

Yeah, the 002 and command|8 are totally different beasts. the command|8 is only supposed to be the 'physical' control surface for the rackmount 002 which has no faders and whatnot. Thats why its usb, is because all it passes back and forth is the info about the position of the faders on the board.

002 rack + command|8 = 002

[norm14]

I want to know as well...so which one is the best choice for now? why?

[CroqueMadame]

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The Command8 would appear to rectify this in it's ability to run LE and TDM systems.

I find the command 8 quite snappy with PT LE (I use the 002r). It doesn't insert plug-ins (it controls only already asigned insert plug) nor perform automation control.
I chose this control going for total compatibility with latest PT soft. A future firmware update may improve that or may not.

[Jsalam112]

So I understand...
The 002 has 4 mic and 4 line inputs but it does not have a talk back.
The Command 8 has a talkback but no audio inputs.

Is it then even possible to use only the Command 8 to control Pro Tools LE?
Where do you get the audio inputs?

[cabuford]

The command8 is something you buy in ADDITION to an LE system. Your audio will come from your 001, 002, 002R or MBox.

[macr0w]

The Command 8 has a talkback but no audio inputs.

The C/8 has no talkback built in. Only monitor output.

[Jsalam112]

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The C/8 has no talkback built in. Only monitor output.

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So the C8 has no audio inputs nor does it have a talkback.

I have a 002 and a Control 24. Initially, the C8 looked as if it took the footprint from the 002 and some of it's function from the C24. Maybe I was just hoping.
If Digi made an 8 channel control surface that controlled LE and TDM with some of the C24 button functions, talkback, MIDI and mic/line inputs...I would have to have one.
No...don't tell me it's a Pro Control. I'm suggesting another step forward for the 002. How big of a step could it be on Digi's part?
The HUI is very functional and has a talkback built in.

[silverlode]

It doesn't insert plug-ins (it controls only already asigned insert plug) nor perform automation control.

Is this true? I find it hard to believe that the C|8 can't record automation.