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Not enough Delay Compensation?
I have a 24/48 mix going. Using several UAD plugins and a few Waves LinMB. I have a vocal buss channel with 8343 samples of delay and it's showing in red. Why is Pro Tools 12 unable to compensate this channel? Some of the tracks I have going to this buss have a peak delay of 8158 samples. So I'm assuming this is happening because there is a combined delay of 16501 samples between the tracks and the buss? There is no feedback from the software indicating what the restriction is. Can anyone confirm?
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Re: Not enough Delay Compensation?
Actually found it buried in the manual. 16383 samples is the max. Guess I'll whip out the old Time Adjuster.
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Re: Not enough Delay Compensation?
DJ, the maximum delay compensation is dependent on the sample rate of the session. If in 48khz you find that you do not have enough delay comp, try going for 88.2/96khz which will give you 32 767 delay comp.
Page 971 of th pro tools 12.1 reference book I've also found this in the reference guide of pt 11 and pt 12. Quote:
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Re: Not enough Delay Compensation?
Sure thing!
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Re: Not enough Delay Compensation?
wouldnt doubling the sample rate cut the delay comp limit in half, not double it?
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Do all DAWs have this limit on delay compensation? I could swear Reaper has no limit? |
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This is a big mystery why Avid keeps this limit... PDC is just simple math, what computers do best. There is no reason why there has to be a limit... unless there is some archaic technical reason avid doesn't fix this in their code... either way, a clear pain in the ass. I'm sure knowing avid there is some financial benefit to leave the limit there ;-) ...I hear another upsell coming! |
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Re: Not enough Delay Compensation?
That archaic technical reason is called DSP, and Avid simply has chosen to keep same limit with Native systems.
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