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003 and ER it`s NOT a dream
After reading all the threads , I realised that working with 003 and ER at the same time is more a pain , not a pleasure.
Reamping in this format takes hours and a double set of monitors. Switching cables each and everytime you have to edit your guitar tone on a track is not what one would expect. After waiting for a solution for more then six month, I can say now that this is not something you would like to have in your semi-professional studio. |
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Re: 003 and ER it`s NOT a dream
Huh??? I don't have any of these problems. Plug my Eleven Rack into 002R (similar to 003, right?) via S/PDIF and viola. Only use one set of monitors, too. Although I am contemplating getting a little patch bay for when I don't want to fire up the "big rig" and just use the 11R. Simple input swap and done.
There are several spots on this forum explaining how to accomplish this best. Could it be a little better in a few aspects, yes...but I've been able to work with it quite well. Maybe explaining your setup a little would help? |
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Re: 003 and ER it`s NOT a dream
003 and 11R work great together for me. what is your exact problem?
I am contemplating selling the 003R though and going to Native-HD, but that really has nothing to do with your question
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Re: 003 and ER it`s NOT a dream
Just two SPDIF cables needed for this.
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Re: 003 and ER it`s NOT a dream
Correct me if I'm wrong but you need the USB cable to embed rig settings.
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Re: 003 and ER it`s NOT a dream
Goga is referring to all the advanced features of the 11, such as the dry track to reamp, where PT needs to see the 11 as the interface.
If you already have an 003 with tons of peripherals (additional light pipe pre's, outboard tube pre's, and other gear, plus monitors) connected, it does become a trade off. If you switch ProTools to use the 11 as the interface, the 003 is supposed to seamlessly hand off the interface to the 11, however, mine flashes, the faders go up and down, and then the 003 is hung in some crazy state - which it needs a reboot after. When the 11r is the primary interface for ProTools, the 003 is useless. No audio can pass through her, meaning, no monitors.... So you have to undo all those cables and plug them into the 11. I have DynAudio's plus a KRK sub, so switching all these cables around is PIA. For me, I connect the 11 via S/PDIF to the 003 and call it a day. I use none of the re-amp features or the dry track feature, as I prefer to use monitors instead of headphones. Personally I think re-amping is a good tool for future options, and if it's really needed, there is the old fashion way - DI Box first, one cable goes to 003 for dry un-amped signal, and the other goes through the Eleven. Most good guitar tuners such as Peterson Strobe Stomp II, are active DI boxes as well.
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Re: 003 and ER it`s NOT a dream
Paul_g is wright about what I'm reffering to.
As long as 003&ER have no easy workflow, the combination is doomed. I bought ER EXACLTY with the thouhgt that I will reamp very easy. In the end, what is the point of having such a machine in the studio if not reamping??? The cost of doing this in my situation is very high, both in money and in the time I have to use. The worse is that I see no future for this combination, I see no good response from digi and I think I just have to find the "perfect guitar tone". Back to the 80's or back to the plugins, and 600 bucks gone. |
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Re: 003 and ER it`s NOT a dream
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spidf from 00x to 11r and usb to computer. in your 11r settings set the input to digital l and set the digital output to rig outputs. your input into the 11r (and your output from your dry track in pt) is spidf l and your 11r output (and new track input) in spidf r. you can also then send your rig outputs to the amp outputs and reamp to them also.
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Re: 003 and ER it`s NOT a dream
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Guitardom, this is good information you have posted. I will give this a try. Thanks for posting this!
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Re: 003 and ER it`s NOT a dream
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another tidbit: if you would like to record your dry track and the rig output of 11r you can do that to! create 2 tracks input 1 to spidf l input 2 to spidf r then set the input of 11r to guitar set the digital output to split in/out. left will be the dry track right will be the rig track. you can also set the right track only to imbed the rig settings now if you wish. then follow my info from the previous post. you can now completely create and reamp your dry tracks all day long using the 11r as a slave.
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