Anyone have timing inconsistencies with Mach 5?

[gjp]

I'm running PT 7.1cs4 on a G5 dual 2.5g with 4gig of ram.
Mach 5 version 1.2.3
When programming a track (drums) with Mach 5, I record quantized MIDI, then record that track to audio. After laying down as little as two tracks (hi hat and kick drum), I can look at the audio and see differences in where the sounds are triggered. For example, in one bar the kick may be a little ahead of the hat, and in another bar on the same beat it will be behind.
Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

[crizdee]

Hi,

See a difference between the midi and audio would be explained by bouncing with ADC on! but to see some notes ahead and some behind is quite bizarre! what playback buffer are you using? does this happen all the time and on all sessions? or on one specific session? does this happen with all program/samples or one specific program in Mack 5.

I use Mack 5 on 7.1cs6 and haven't noticed any timing problems! but i haven't looked that closely!!

Chris

[gjp]

Thanks for responding Chris. My playback buffer is set to 256 samples. I can't tell if it happens all the time. I've just been feeling like my tracks are not quite as tight as they should be since I've been programming entirely on PT, so I did a couple of (not very thorough) tests and found the problems I mentioned. Please let me know if you find anything out. Also, what's ADC?

[crizdee]

Thanks for responding Chris. My playback buffer is set to 256 samples. I can't tell if it happens all the time. I've just been feeling like my tracks are not quite as tight as they should be since I've been programming entirely on PT, so I did a couple of (not very thorough) tests and found the problems I mentioned. Please let me know if you find anything out. Also, what's ADC?

Hi,

ADC is automatic delay compensation. this automatically adjust each tracks delay in relationship with the delay caused by using plugins on each track! under options you can turn ADC on or off!

You need to look and see if you have it turned on or off? if you want all your tracks to play in time with plugins inserted then you'll need to have this turned on? unless you want to manually adjust each track.

When using ADC, you need to turn it off when you bounce the midi to audio.

Chris

[Extreme Mixing]

I have also noticed some timing issues with Pro Tools and soft synths, most notably Stylus. It is rock solid in Logic, but pretty lame in Pro Tools. Absolutely worse than my Mix running 5.1.1. Of course, I wasn't running any soft synths with my old system. Is anything happening to fix this bug? And it's not just latency, because the timing errors are inconsistant.

Steve

[Jeremy Mix3000]

I have noticed that putting Sychronic on an Instrument Track gives a tighter sound than inserting it on an Aux. Maybe this would also apply to Mach 5 and other soft synths.

[gjp]

Thanks, I just didn't recognize the abbreviation.
I see you on here all the time-what (in your opinion) are my chances of getting Digi to address this problem? Is there a procedure for submitting issues to them? I just want a stable system that I don't have to second-guess. It seems like there is an emphasis on features over reliable performance. It sure would be nice if basic sequencing functions worked properly.

[Jeremy Mix3000]

The best way to get help directly from Digi is to be in front of your PT rig and call Digi support. If your system is out of the warrantee period I think you have to pay a fee to get telephone support.

It seems like there is an emphasis on features over reliable performance.

I can see how you must feel this way but I totally dissagree with you on this point. I think Pro Tools is Very Reliable and Very Rock Solid. The emphasis being on Reliable Performance over tons of Features.

[DigiTechSupt]

Thanks, I just didn't recognize the abbreviation.
I see you on here all the time-what (in your opinion) are my chances of getting Digi to address this problem? Is there a procedure for submitting issues to them? I just want a stable system that I don't have to second-guess. It seems like there is an emphasis on features over reliable performance. It sure would be nice if basic sequencing functions worked properly.

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[DigiTechSupt]

I should mention that some plug-ins may exhibit timing issues depending on which version of Pro Tools the plug-in was developed for. Ones that have been updated for Pro Tools 7 should have very consistent and accurate timing. Ones that were created using older SDK's may exhibit more timing issues. Digidesign is working with developers to get softsynth plug-ins updated as quickly as possible but, in some cases, this may take longer than everyone would like.