Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Additional Resources


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > Pro Tools Software > Tips & Tricks

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-13-2009, 10:37 AM
Dynamixaled Dynamixaled is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 88
Default Big Ben-Can you hear the difference?

I have PT8 with Rosetta 800 and Aurora 16. For music, I mix from my Soundtracs console.... Would I notice much audio difference if I purchased a Big Ben for my master clock? Anyone have a similar setup?

Thanks,

Alec
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-13-2009, 11:18 AM
therecordinghouse therecordinghouse is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Fort Wayne, IN.
Posts: 1,094
Default Re: Big Ben-Can you hear the difference?

you will not slap a clock on your system and "magically" your mixes all sound incredible. however, i have noticed an overall quality boost in the final output of my projects when the entire project is run on a single master clock. everything was tracked, mixed, and mastered with the same clock. in my case i opted for the isochrone ocx.
__________________
Lynn Graber
Studio and Mobile Recording, Fort Wayne, IN.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-13-2009, 12:05 PM
ChrisMitchell ChrisMitchell is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 163
Default Re: Big Ben-Can you hear the difference?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamixaled View Post
I have PT8 with Rosetta 800 and Aurora 16. For music, I mix from my Soundtracs console.... Would I notice much audio difference if I purchased a Big Ben for my master clock? Anyone have a similar setup?

Thanks, Alec
I run the Big Ben now. When I first purchased Pro Tools, just used the 96 i/o's internal clocks.
Then got an Apogee PSX-100, and used that as a master, and yes, sounded audibly better.
Got a Big Ben last year and now use that as master clock.
I can hear an audible difference between the PSX-100 and the Big Ben, and can hear a big difference between the 96 i/o internal clock and Big Ben. (yes, I sat there one night disconnecting/reconnecting wires and reconfig'ing everything).

So yes, it was worth the purchase in my case.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-13-2009, 03:17 PM
Dynamixaled Dynamixaled is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 88
Default Re: Big Ben-Can you hear the difference?

The Isochrone OCX sounds interesting... anyone A-B'd it against a Big Ben?

Alec
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-13-2009, 05:06 PM
therecordinghouse therecordinghouse is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Fort Wayne, IN.
Posts: 1,094
Default Re: Big Ben-Can you hear the difference?

i seriously doubt you will hear a difference. there is so much more a play..
__________________
Lynn Graber
Studio and Mobile Recording, Fort Wayne, IN.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-13-2009, 05:07 PM
therecordinghouse therecordinghouse is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Fort Wayne, IN.
Posts: 1,094
Default Re: Big Ben-Can you hear the difference?

between the big ben and isochrone that is.
__________________
Lynn Graber
Studio and Mobile Recording, Fort Wayne, IN.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-13-2009, 10:23 PM
tonepad tonepad is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SoCal USA
Posts: 834
Default Re: Big Ben-Can you hear the difference?

In any multi digital setup, having a master clock will definitely sound better than depending on one of the devices being the master. In my case I use a Mytel 192 w/ multi-distro and I remember hearing a difference right away. Now that was several years ago so these days it's a sound I'm used to, so i could probably try another clock and notice a difference, but is it better or indeed is it really noticable? I think once you get to a high level master clock like all these that are mentioned it will improve you system in pretty much the same way.

Bottom line I'm glad to have my Mytek and at this level, regardless of your choice you will be too.

Wilson
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-14-2009, 09:48 AM
DrFord's Avatar
DrFord DrFord is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 873
Default Re: Big Ben-Can you hear the difference?

If you don't use the Big Ben the next choice is the Antelope clock.

I purchased the Big Ben, and yes it audibly changed my sound in a positive way. But as recordinghouse said it will be a magic solution to make your mixes better, but it will be a positive change in the quality of your audio. Better sampling means better clarity.

Typically the response from a better clock source is that you get better top end and low end, and that it will clean up your mud a bit.

Also it is nice that it can be used to adjust the timing a bit too with pull up / pull down and different percentages to speed up and down mixes.

D
__________________
DRFord
Homepage | Facebook | YouTube
Mac OSX 10.12.6 | Mac Pro 5,1 | 12core 3.46ghz
Avid HD Native PCIe Core | Pro Tools HD 2018.1
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-14-2009, 09:20 PM
blackbirdstudio blackbirdstudio is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 287
Default Re: Big Ben-Can you hear the difference?

Hi folks..

Does the Rosetta 800 share the same clock as the big ben?
I tried clocking my 192's off a Rosetta 800, and noticed a change. My thoughts are, that if you use the rosetta 800 as the master clock for the 96's or 192's, sonically it should be quite similar to using the big ben as the master clock.
The Rosetta has a great clock in it. Id save my coins..

Cheers
Dave
__________________
2.66 Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, OS 10.6.3
HD3 Accel, Control 24, PT 8.1 cs1
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-15-2009, 01:09 AM
JFreak's Avatar
JFreak JFreak is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Tampere, Finland
Posts: 15,501
Default Re: Big Ben-Can you hear the difference?

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackbirdstudio View Post
I tried clocking my 192's off a Rosetta 800, and noticed a change.
Change, to what direction? HD192 has a very good clock and it can make inferior-clocked devices sound better. Now I don't mean Rosetta would be one of those, but are you certain things are _better_ clocked via the Apogee, or are they just being "different"?

At least I know that HD192 A/D converters are on par with Apogee AD16X converters, but the two just sound a bit different. Which is better? Depends on a project.
__________________
Janne
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
48k vs 96k or 192k..can we hear the difference? ejsongs Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 29 06-13-2018 11:21 PM
how much difference will I really hear? lastounce 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 2 08-27-2004 03:32 AM
Will I really hear a difference at 24Bit? Dal Hic Tips & Tricks 7 02-23-2003 12:42 AM
Record at 16 or 24 bits? Hear a difference? Haigbabe General Discussion 5 05-05-2002 09:08 AM
16, 20, 24 bits-can you hear the difference? Park Seward 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 23 03-01-2002 11:40 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:58 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com