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Old 02-24-2018, 01:49 AM
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Hey guys and girls,

I haver a question about this. I have built a portable setup and want the smallest controller thinkable, I have the Griffin bluetooth now to control my protools for clip gain (just a s short-cut) but now I would like to have it control my selected fader up and down. I managed to get the fader jump in a position with an apple script controlling MIDI Pipeline to the protools M-Audio MIDI controller settings in Pheripherals.

Problem is, I can just set the fader in a certain fixed position depending on the value in the apple script. It will not move up and down from its previous position (like you want a controller to behave

This is the command for down:

tell application "MidiPipe"
MIDISend toPort "MidiPipe AppleScript Input" withData {176, 34, 1}
end tell


and the one for up:

tell application "MidiPipe"
MIDISend toPort "MidiPipe AppleScript Input" withData {176, 33, 1}
end tell



Thanks so much team!!

Ciao,

Arjen



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To Control PT12 with my generic Midi Controler....
i have setup a list with all the CC# used and free and found some Dead CC#

i thought i will share the list so you can see what CC# are free to programm with your plugins side a side to the Transport Control:
(Setup Descriped at the end)

Pro Tools Complete Midi CC# Chart

Free Programmable CC# : 75 (0-11,16,25-32,42-48,58-63,65-73,79-108,112,119)
Pro Tools Fixed CC# : 39 (12-15,17-24,33-41.49-57,109-111,113-118)
Dead CC# (Not working) : 14 (64,74-78,120-127)

CC# 0-127 =

CC# 0
CC# 1
CC# 2
CC# 3
CC# 4
CC# 5
CC# 6
CC# 7
CC# 8
CC# 9
CC# 10
CC# 11
CC# 12 – mute selected track
CC# 13 – solo selected track
CC# 14 – move bank left
CC# 15 – move bank right
CC# 16
CC# 17 – Pan knob 1 (incremental/endless)
CC# 18 – Pan knob 2 (incremental/endless)
CC# 19 – Pan knob 3 (incremental/endless)
CC# 20 – Pan knob 4 (incremental/endless)
CC# 21 – Pan knob 5 (incremental/endless)
CC# 22 – Pan knob 6 (incremental/endless)
CC# 23 – Pan knob 7 (incremental/endless)
CC# 24 – Pan knob 8 (incremental/endless)
CC# 25
CC# 26
CC# 27
CC# 28
CC# 29
CC# 30
CC# 31
CC# 32
CC# 33 – Fader 1
CC# 34 – Fader 2
CC# 35 – Fader 3
CC# 36 – Fader 4
CC# 37 – Fader 5
CC# 38 – Fader 6
CC# 39 – Fader 7
CC# 40 – Fader 8
CC# 41 – Master Fader
CC# 42
CC# 43
CC# 44
CC# 45
CC# 46
CC# 47
CC# 48
CC# 49 – Slider Button 1
CC# 50 – Slider Button 2
CC# 51 – Slider Button 3
CC# 52 – Slider Button 4
CC# 53 – Slider Button 5
CC# 54 – Slider Button 6
CC# 55 – Slider Button 7
CC# 56 – Slider Button 8
CC# 57 – Flip button
CC# 58
CC# 59
CC# 60
CC# 61
CC# 62
CC# 63
CC# 64 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 65
CC# 66
CC# 67
CC# 68
CC# 69
CC# 70
CC# 71
CC# 72
CC# 73
CC# 74 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 75 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 76 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 77 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 78 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 79
CC# 80
CC# 81
CC# 82
CC# 83
CC# 84
CC# 85
CC# 86
CC# 87
CC# 88
CC# 89
CC# 90
CC# 91
CC# 92
CC# 93
CC# 94
CC# 95
CC# 96
CC# 97
CC# 98
CC# 99
CC# 100
CC# 101
CC# 102
CC# 103
CC# 104
CC# 105
CC# 106
CC# 107
CC# 108
CC# 109 – Mode button
CC# 110 – Prev track
CC# 111 – Next track
CC# 112
CC# 113 – Loop button
CC# 114 – Rewind
CC# 115 – Fast Forward
CC# 116 – Stop
CC# 117 – Play
CC# 118 – Record
CC# 119
CC# 120 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 121 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 122 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 123 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 124 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 125 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 126 --- NOT WORKING! ---
CC# 127 --- NOT WORKING! ---

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Setting up a Generic Midi controler for ProTools 12 =

1. Open ProTools and go to Setup > Peripherals > MIDI Controllers

2. Add a controller
Type: M-Audio Keyboard
From: CONTROLLER VIRTUAL OUT
To : CONTROLLER VIRTUAL IN
#Chs: 8

Here is a list of the CC#s used . You can use these values to set up other controllers or create your own scenes.

CC#

12 – mute selected track
13 – solo selected track
14 – move bank left
15 – move bank right

17 thru 24 – Pan knobs (incremental/endless)

33 thru 40 – faders
41 – master fader

49 thru 56 – Slider Buttons
57 – Flip button

109 – Mode button
110 – Prev track
111 – Next track

113 – Loop button
114 – Rewind
115 – Fast Forward
116 – Stop
117 – Play
118 – Record

=

Transport:

All transport buttons map to their corresponding buttons in Pro Tools. Play, stop, rewind, forward and record act as you would expect in in PT8′s transport window. Holding the loop button while pressing the transport keys gives more options. Loop + Play enables loop play, and Loop + Record enables loop record. Loop + Stop will undo the last action and Loop + RR or FF moves to the beginning or end of the song.

Sliders 1-8

Sliders 1-8 control the corresponding sliders in Protools. The sliders are controlled in banks of 8.8. The bank will change if you select a track outside of the current bank of 8, or if you use the change bank buttons.

Slider 9

Maps the rightmost master fader.

Pan Knobs 1-8

The knobs unfortunately are not emulated correctly. This is due to the fact the Axiom 61 uses “endless” knobs while the nanoKontrol uses absolute knobs. The knobs can reliably give settings of full left, centered or full right. Normally the knobs are mapped to pan controls, though this can change

Upper button row

1 – < Track (Previous Track)
2 – Track > (Next Track)
3 – < Bank (Previous Bank)
4 – Bank > (Next Bank)
5 – unused
6 – unused
7 – Mute selected
8 – Solo Selected
9 – Mode Button

The Mode button switches between mixer mode and insert mode. When in Mixer mode the nanoKontrol’s knobs control PT8′s mixer pan knobs. In insert mode the knobs are used to control plug in knobs or settings.

Lower Button row

1 thru 8 – Slider buttons
9 – Flip button

In mixer mode the flip button switches the use of the slider buttons between these functions:

Select track
Arm track to record
Mute track
Solo track

In insert mode, the flip button switches the functions of the pan and slider knobs.

How to control Plug ins with the nanoKontrol

Most users will probably be satisfied being able to use the transport and sliders with the basic button functions. If you would like to also edit plug in controls, you need to enable the Insertmode with the mode button. In insert mode, you can use the knobs to change the values of the plug in controls. Unfortunately though, knob emulation doesn’t work very well with the nanoKontrol. You can use the flip button in Insert Mode to switch the function of the knobs and sliders. Then the sliders will control the plug in (and the knobs will control PT mixer faders). This can get a little confusing because there are no visual indicators on the nanoKontrol to let you know the status of the Mode or Flip buttons.

Finally, if you want to use the knobs to correctly control the plug ins, I swapped the CC#s of the sliders and faders between Scene 1 and Scene 2 (Scene 3 and 4 are copies of 1 and 2).

Workflows:

To edit plug ins with sliders
1. Press Mode
2. Press Flip
3. Enable Scene 1 or 3

To edit plug ins with knobs
1. Press Mode
2. Press Flip
3. Enable Scene 2 or 4

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Old 06-11-2018, 08:21 AM
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Hi,
So iv been losing my mind here. I cant get any plugin in my PT 2018 unlimited to "learn" CC messages that aren't from 33-40.
So from 127 CC messages, AVID is limiting us to 8 of them to control a plugin?
Lets say it is limited, I cant even find a proper list of all the PT12's CC commands.
I got a few midi keyboards and I want to populate their damn knobs. I mean my novation launch control has 16, whats the point in that

Am I missing something here?
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That won't work.

Some plug-ins (instruments) will have a MIDI learn function, allowing you to assign physical controls to virtual knobs - but otherwise it's a proprietary language, for which you need a control surface that speaks said language (Eucon / HUI / certain older Digidesign surfaces).

Some people have had a degree of luck emulating Hypercontrol, by using a Novation controller, with it's accompanying Novation MIDI remapping software.


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Old 06-12-2018, 06:58 AM
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Additionally there's the Slate Raven, which uses a layer of intermediate software (it might be possible to get hold of that intermediate software, but it could be a nightmare mapping it all).

Of course, with the above mentioned control surfaces, in addition to the default plug-in mapping, you can create your own custom maps.


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Old 06-12-2018, 07:46 AM
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Quote:
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....Some people have had a degree of luck emulating Hypercontrol....
Hi Carl - I've just been hit with a dose of Synchronicity or similar with this workaround:
Ronnie Pollock has just posted "I've discovered a solution to achieve Hypercotrol functionality with Protools beyond version 10" - see the last 2 Posts:
http://community.m-audio.com/m-audio...y_button&reply

Partial quote:
"However I also discovered that if you open the application IGNITE before loading Protools then basic Hyperontrol functions become ACTIVE within Protools 12 and Ignite no longer has access the Axiom 32 Mini, freeing it up for Protools.
This method appears to trick the Axiom Mini into keeping the Hypercontrol functions active for Protools 11 / 12. "
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Quote:
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Hi Carl - I've just been hit with a dose of Synchronicity or similar with this workaround:

Ronnie Pollock has just posted "I've discovered a solution to achieve Hypercotrol functionality with Protools beyond version 10" - see the last 2 Posts:

http://community.m-audio.com/m-audio...y_button&reply



Partial quote:

"However I also discovered that if you open the application IGNITE before loading Protools then basic Hyperontrol functions become ACTIVE within Protools 12 and Ignite no longer has access the Axiom 32 Mini, freeing it up for Protools.

This method appears to trick the Axiom Mini into keeping the Hypercontrol functions active for Protools 11 / 12. "


Interesting, I will check that out (though it sounds like it doesn't work with plug-ins, or panorama - just volume).

When I noticed I'm quoted several times in that thread, I figured it was going to be a dead end - but this at least sounds promising, in terms of adjusting multiple volume faders simultaneously, when not using a control surface.

Cheers!


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