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Re: Waves Audio AAX DSP
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Name one company that covers the breadth, range and quality that Waves does? UAD maybe but I ALREADY OWN WAVES. I'm not interested in running TWO DSP systems. I have virtually everything Waves make AND I ALREADY own MOST of the TDM alternatives. I prefer Waves. I'm sorry that bothers you so much. Also sans Waves, I'm going to potentially loose compatibility with pre HDX sessions. As a PROFESSIONAL, this is very important to me and my clients. Waves haven't even announced IF they're going to do a DSP version of HDX let alone when. That will leave a LOT of PROFESSIONALS in the lurch. You'd understand that if you were one. Quote:
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I think the bigger picture here is more related to prior investment. I'm In construction. I own 2 bobcats that's about 100000 dollars. The attachments are standard across the board. If they suddenly start making a machine that will out work the ones I have but changed that standard rendering the 60000 dollars in attachments I do own useless no matter how good it would be I wouldn't upgrade. I can sympathize with a studio that has invested 10's of thousands of dollars in plug-ins to find other solutions to continue to use what they have paid for. It's not that they can't mix without them, it's what they want and what they've paid for. It's simply growing pains that will either split the industry or slow it's growth. If waves don't make a move then one or the other will suffer to some extent. I personally just understand the thought of throwing away a large investment in order to stay with one particular brand is a scary thought.
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Re: Waves Audio AAX DSP
Since I mix at several different post production studios, I try to avoid third party plugins in general - from any vendor, including Waves. I occasionally will take an iLok along with me that has licenses for the third party plugins I will be using, but it's a major PITA when weeks later a studio asks me to messenger the iLok to them so they can do a minor update on an obscure delivery requirement. Avid plugins are not always the best to be had, but they are generally professional quality and everyone has them.
For sound design I often use third party plugins, but I usually render the regions before the mix, so compatibility isn't an issue.
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Re: Waves Audio AAX DSP
To say that across the board any given prefered plugin can be replaced by another plugin is just too broad if a statement. I used to put my entire drum mix through an Anthony D'Maria Fairchild 670 that I own. It became too big of a pain in the butt to recall the settings for each individual song, on a full 12 sing record, in order to do mix comments so I started to look for an ITB method that would sound just as good. After extensive A - B'ing I found that the Puigtech 670 coupled with the Slate Virtual Channel sounded pretty much the same. Tell me that you can do that with a Digi, or any otherfor that mater, limiter besides maybe the UAD 670 which I don't own. I also don't want to run a second DSP setup that I can't track through as well. This is just one example. There is no simplistic solution to this problem. Some of the answers offered here are just that, simplistic.
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Re: Waves Audio AAX DSP
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I also have a few Waves plug-ins for which I have not yet found reasonable replacements. I run these natively in HDX, but would prefer to see them in DSP. It appears though, this will not happen anytime soon, if ever.
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Re: Waves Audio AAX DSP
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Necjam actually hits the point right on the head: Quote:
This philosophy is definitely the best way to look at it. If you really want to keep using Waves, and eventually upgrade to HDX... then you should stop giving money to BOTH Waves and Avid. If you support one, but not the other... you're giving one more credit when, let's face it, both tools are equally important to you. Avid shouldn't have to pay Waves anything, and Waves should realize that nearly everyone else is already on board with AAX. It's nothing more than a staring contest where no one wins. The best thing you can do is sit it out, and keep using what works for you. Worry about upgrading when you know it will work.
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Re: Waves Audio AAX DSP
That's exactly what I'm gonna do. I have more than enough DSP power with an HD 6 and my work is getting done in the way that I prefer to work.
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Re: Waves Audio AAX DSP
Waves is more focused on putting in software on Dell laptop's to make a 'better laptop speaker'
plus they focus there every on creating an new copy protection system that does not work. Why do they need to make AAX plug-ins? - that's not the company focus. |
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Re: Waves Audio AAX DSP
WUP/Waves - not for me thanks
1) I don't like their business practices 2) I don't rate their clones i.e. of the Cedar DNS 3) I choose not to support Israeli companies 4) I have found their automation unreiliable I am very glad that I am not faced with a back catalogue of sessions with their plugs moving into the AAX DSP new frontier. These are my personal choices. cheers
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