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Amen to that. Without a revamped approach to CPU usage, the new 2019.5 will be dead in the water for me.
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Well I’m on an iMac Pro 10-core too. (Though, with 128Gig of ram) I cant complain about the amount of dropouts I get, even with high VI counts However, I freeze them anyhow because when I start to use plugins with high sample delays like FabFilter pro-Mb or soundradix drumleveler, all VI’s using arpeggio loops and/or having sidechain plugins on the insert fall out of sync like craaaazyyy. So perhaps AVID could look into a fix or 2 on the ADC for midi as well Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk
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By the way, 128 Gigs of Ram is killer!
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It definitely breaks a quick and intuitive workflow. And in logic midi doesn’t fall apart when using plugins causing high sample delay. But like you said, mixing and editing in logic is like making a spreadsheet in Word Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk
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But I had to do something really important an take a load of trash to the dump Yes sometimes the staggering truth of reality is hard to swallow and often leads regurgitating nonsense in a futile effort to ignore the ponderous realization that perception is a choice, not a result
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Audiophile is probably a pretty accurate description for what is going on in some parts of the internet regarding converter quality and the desire for the best. It is becoming more and more akin to $300 specialty 'audiophile' IEC power cables, or gold-plated fuses, or $1000 speaker cables. Expensive stuff that is better on paper, but may well have less affect on the actual quality of sound than any given individual's morning caffeine intake. Maybe I am just getting older and more tired. Haha. Or perhaps I am just happy with my Omni. I do like it a lot. I don't think it's been any real secret what happened to Avid. At one point in time they owned countless manufacturers in the industry, but it all blew up in their face. The Pro Tools LE line of interfaces was one of the first that they threw under the bus, and they tried for a brief while to compensate for it by rebranding Apogee interfaces and selling them as their own. I would absolutely love to see Avid release something like a 1RU rack mount interface with built in HDX capabilities. But will it ever actually happen? I personally doubt it. With the exception of the Avid Dock, the cheapest product that they have released in the last 5 or 6 years costs $4,999. It's almost as though they may have learnt a lesson from their poor attempts to do business in the home studio market. I'm not at all fussed by Avid's involvement with DAD. They are right up there as one of the best in the industry. I reckon Avid should pursue more alliances with other companies that are at the top of their game. That is one way Avid have always really improved Pro Tools. The music notation part of it came from buying Sibelius. Eucon came from purchasing Euphonix. The Space plugin came from purchasing TL Labs. The Air plugins and instruments came from purchasing Wazoo. The BF plugins came from purchasing Bombfactory. That has been the Pro Tools way for decades. I'd love it if Avid sided with Izotope, or Native Instruments, or other software developers at the top of their game if it meant better tools for Pro Tools users. Haven't Avid always been playing catch up with other DAWS when it comes to the home studio market? They certainly still know how to make hardware, and it is particularly 'serious' hardware for a company that isn't 'serious'. I'll leave some pictures for inspiration. I do think it speaks very strongly (unfortunately) for where Avid's priorities lay now and probably into the future...
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LDS,
thanks for your informative reply. For me anyway, it is important to learn what I can about what is going on behind the scenes that has crippled Avid from making Pro Tools the best software in the business. I truly believe it could be with the right people in charge. I am at a crossroads with whether to stay in the Avid ecosystem or get off it while the gear still has some value on the resale market. I've often thought Avid should've purchased Waves and maybe even Universal Audio. But I'm not sure they could afford it. If they could pull it off financially, that would allow them to instantly dominate the audio software, hardware, plugin, home recording and Pro market. The negative to this would be less competition and steeper prices I imagine. Not to mention would they run these companies into the ground after acquiring them? Thanks for the pictures also. From this I can infer that Avid is focusing their resources for the Pro market, which isn't a bad strategy since there aren't too many companies competing in this market. Reason is, the Pro market is shrinking by the day. The only saving grace is the audio arena that is producing music for TV and movies. I think that area is actually growing with all the content out there. Gone are the days of a few major broadcast networks making shows. Now you have Netflix, Amazon Prime, CBS and a whole growing host of online content service providers. This growing area will inevitably need pro audio for their shows, so perhaps Avid realizing this, is trying to tap into being the dominant player in that market. The sense I get is that most of the pros using Avid and making decent money are working TV shows and movies. Perhaps the home studio artist, like me needs to rethink which DAW and interface to stick with for the long haul. Thanks again! Jason
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My pleasure. I, too, think the amount of content being generated within the 'post' market is increasing. Streaming platforms, VR & 360 stuff, podcasts, on demand, immersive formats. The same also applies with live concerts & theatre. Some of the stuff D&B and other audio companies are doing with sound design and immersive platforms is incredible. It's an interesting contrast compared to sound for music production. Music has had the heck theorised out of it over the years, to the point where perhaps very few stones have been left unturned. Sound for picture on the other hand very much exists on the fringes, barely garnering a mention in film studies lectures, and when it gets mentioned it runs a distant second fiddle to the pictures. I suppose it's that kind of marginalisation that really brings freedom to experiment. 5.1 never really massively took off in music-only production. It fact, it went backwards to MP3. Meanwhile, film sound has moved to object orientated applications and people are now throwing another 4 channels of audio onto the ceiling in addition to the 8 channels that already. Post is a far more innovation rich part of the pro audio, I think. Check out, for example, D&B soundscape if you are bored. Exciting times. The stuff happening in music production like vintage compressor emulations, or vintage modelled microphones, or large touch screens seems pretty dull by comparison. At the end of the day, I don't think anyone here wants to see Avid do poorly. Nor has the prospect of paying a lot for very little really hasn't been lost on anyone. Some people have just reconciled their position a little quicker than others, probably by asking themselves the question of what am I going to do about it? If you haven't tried rolling back PT versions and viciously testing plugins for stability issues, I would give that a spin. I am always impressed with Reaper when I fire it up too. Check it out if you get a chance. It might float your boat. Best of luck!
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What there ISN'T is competition in the home and project studio markets. Other than the Artist Mix, Presonus Studio Faderport, and Behringer X-Touch, there's basically no control surfaces that are affordable for the home and small studio market. And forget trying to find a decent real console for that market that isn't used or 20+ years old. (I have a 48 channel Soundtracs Quartz for sale if anyone is interested). And forget trying to find a current product that will work as BOTH a live sound console and a control surface for Protools. I have a Yamaha DM2000 that I will be using once I sell the Soundtracs console and free up that space in my remote truck. (I also have an Artist Mix). The Pro market isn't about less competition, it's about better margins than the home and project studio market.
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