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Re: Anybody here using a Macbook Pro for REAL work?
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My new MBP just left Hong Kong this morning (I didn’t go with the i9 model).... saying I should have it by Friday (fingers crossed) so I’ll find out first hand if thermals are an issue but having spoken to a few MBP/DAW users this topic has never come up, however I’m not sure of their track counts and plugin use per project but I suspect even though a few of them are seasoned professional muso’s their track counts wouldn’t be that high I plan to used mine in a semi professional home studio as well as live recording plugged into my Presonus. I was toying wif the idea of building a desktop PC into a road case. But I wanted more mobility in that I didn’t have to leave it at the gig.
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Re: Anybody here using a Macbook Pro for REAL work?
whatever you do, if you get a new one with the 6 core, get the base model.. There is literally zero point in getting the 2.9ghz, as the thermals are so bad that it can't even maintain it's base clock.
When testing, the base one of 2.2ghz and the 2.9ghz stayed around the same clock, in the mid 2's. Of course, for any mac DAW, there'll be an improvement in processing power because of the two extra cores, so you'll basically get more plugins, but low latency performance wouldn't be any difference or even worse maybe than the 3.1ghz quad core.. as that is able to maintain it's base clock much higher than the hex core. Single core clock speed DOES matter for DAW. To tell you the truth, my imac from 2011 has constantly performed better than my macbook pro from 2015, even though that was three gens newer chip which much better clock for clock performance.. It's just that the imac is always at 3.5ghz without any issue whatsoever nor any noise really. (i know the new imacs non pros are very noisy at load, but mine never was with the 2600 inside). I now always use my macbook pro with turbo disabled.. Whenever i am using Cubase or Pro tools, i get consistent performance, and the clock never dips below 2.8ghz base.. It's basically always at 2.8ghz and everything is predictable, and yes, with a good thunderbolt interface, it's very usable for music. Temps now never go above 80 when using a DAW, and right now on the web with one tab with netflix in the background and another here, it is at 34 degrees. Perfect. If i had turbo enabled, it would constantly go to 3.4 or 3.5 ghz, hit 95 degrees almost instantly, then 99, then fans would be at 6000 rpm, and the clock speed would fluctuate wildly. Plenty of confirmed reports about the thermal problems of the hex around, I have investigated it closely and it seems it's a definite issue. SO.. i say, still worth it for 32gb ram.. but get the 2,2ghz chip, or if you must get the 2.9ghz, disable turbo.. heat will be controlled much better as the initial spiked to mid 3ghz is what will cause heat to rise rapidly. Or just get a refurb or s/h quad core and wait for apple to improve the thermals. I think they will do that next release, i mean, they have to really.
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Re: Anybody here using a Macbook Pro for REAL work?
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Very same project on mac could not record at all, and core load in the meter looked like a triangle. The middle core was getting hammered even though it was the same effect on each track.. buffer 128 helped the issue a lot, 256 was where it completely equalled windows performance. That's a huge difference! Windows is the way to go for PT performance for native systems, if you are hdx or have plans for it, mac will be just fine. Note, if you use a lot of arturia or uad plugins, you WILL hit the FLS limit on windows very fast and not be able to add any unique new plugins (unfortunately a lot of people don't know about it, it affects every single daw on windows, basically, each process in windows has a finite number of FLS slots, 128 max, minus whatever the daw itself uses.. average free with most daws is about 100 - what happens is, every UNIQUE plugin, will use an amount of those slots till you can't add anymore. For example, just one instance of arturia analog lab uses over 40 slots, because it loads all the arturia synths in the background.. but most plugins use 2 or 3.. So the average is about 40 unique plugins before you run out, and then you can't add any new plugins other than more instances of those same ones.. Projects can re load with plugins missing and all sorts of havoc.. UAD plugins use the slots up fast). Workaround is VE Pro or J Bridge.
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Re: Anybody here using a Macbook Pro for REAL work?
Yes. I've been using Lenovo Thinkpad W (now "P") series laptops (with max ram and NVMe drives installed) for years.
You can currently go to 64GB of RAM and have 4 drives with 2 of them NVMe drives running at full speed. The only thing (if you are like me and go back and forth between Mac and PC) is the slight muscle memory of getting used to hitting the different shortcut keys (command, ctrl, windows start, option translation) being slightly different. Also, thanks to AAX, there are rarely any plugins that aren't both on the Mac and Windows now (used to be an issue.) And you can get PC laptops with the numeric keypad (miss the old 17" MacBook Pro) which is pretty necessary for Pro Tools. Used to have to carry a USB keypad but not with the W/P Thinkpads.
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Re: Anybody here using a Macbook Pro for REAL work?
I must say, I went for the 2.2GHz i7 over the 2.9GHz i9 model, the 32Gb of ram pretty much sold me.... I could have ordered mine a day earlier and missed that.
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Re: Anybody here using a Macbook Pro for REAL work?
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Re: Anybody here using a Macbook Pro for REAL work?
you absolutely made the right call getting the 2.2.. it should work great as is in a DAW without having to worry about turbo or too much thermal throttling.
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Re: Anybody here using a Macbook Pro for REAL work?
Im interested to see if anything really changes with the new software update. I know there is still the problem if the chassis design, but it would be nice to see closer to Apples specs in real world use.
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Re: Anybody here using a Macbook Pro for REAL work?
The update basically made it perform as it should within the constraints that come with the less than ideal design when it comes to heat dissipation. I.e. it is a lot faster than before the update but not fast to the extent of the CPU's actual capabilities.
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Re: Anybody here using a Macbook Pro for REAL work?
Guess that means I should buy a cooler when I order my Mac lol. Ive heard the Thermaltake Massive TM is really good.
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