Plugin GUIs disappear at first

[Neale]

Sorry if this is in another 19.5.1 thread, but I don't THINK it is...

Currently on PT 2019.6 and EUCON 19.5.1. I updated both at the same time, so I'm not sure which one caused it, but... on clicking to open a plugin, the GUI goes away. Controls for said plugin appear on my Artist Control's encoders (as they should), then go away when the GUI goes away, so I guess it's closing the GUI AND un-attentioning it. This does not happen if I disable EUCON in PT Prefs, so I guess it has to do with EUCON somehow. I imagine it's one of the new prefs, but since I imagine this isn't "desired behaviour", I'm not sure which pref to disable in EUCON to prevent this from happening.

Thoughts?

[Neale]

Out of sheer frustration, I thought I'd bang around at it a bit.

So...

1) with "Close Windows on Workstation When Exiting", this does not happen. "Open Windows on Workstation When Editing" and its drop-down menu seem to have no effect.

2) with the "Close Windows..." option selected, if I click on another plug-in on the same track, it works fine. When I select any other plugin on any other track, it pops up for a sec... then disappears, and the controls of the disappeared plugin are not on the Artist Control rotaries. If I close the GUI of any plugin that WAS onscreen, the controls stay as they were on the Artist Control, as they should.

[Frank Kruse]

I find this whole auto plugin window open/close behaviour pretty inconsistent. Sometimes when you select across a bunch of tracks 8 or 9 channel strips pop up but never close when you de-select and you have to click away 9 or more plugin windows manually. Sometimes they don't open at all.

Is this a bug or feature? Does it depend on which mode you have set on your Mix? CHAN mode or not? Tried both and couldn't see a different consistent behaviour.

hm...

[Neale]

Originally Posted by Frank Kruse

I find this whole auto plugin window open/close behaviour pretty inconsistent. Sometimes when you select across a bunch of tracks 8 or 9 channel strips pop up but never close when you de-select and you have to click away 9 or more plugin windows manually. Sometimes they don't open at all.



Is this a bug or feature? Does it depend on which mode you have set on your Mix? CHAN mode or not? Tried both and couldn't see a different consistent behaviour.



hm...

Are you referring to an Artist Mix? I have a Control, no “CHAN” mode.

[Frank Kruse]

Originally Posted by Neale

Are you referring to an Artist Mix? I have a Control, no “CHAN” mode.

Yes, a Mix. There's a FLIP CHAN button. I mostly work in a mode where I have that button on.

[Neale]

Originally Posted by Frank Kruse

Yes, a Mix. There's a FLIP CHAN button. I mostly work in a mode where I have that button on.

Not MY problem, as I have a Control as noted.

So... something else bunging it up.

[Neale]

I know there’s a new pref for windows opening on the workstation, but the “Attention Most Recently Clicked DAW Area” selection is as it was before (“Plug-Ins”), as the unified uninstaller doesn’t remove these prefs (even when the box in the uninstaller is ticked). Rotating through the three new “Open Windows on Workstation...” options doesn’t do anything.

Again, I’ll sometimes see a flicker of the parameters go by on the Control... but then they disappear within half a second... like it’s trying to attention then but then something else tells it to back to the root channel view (Inserts, Sends, etc...)

[Neale]

Banging around some more.

1) select track from control surface. Let's say Track 1.
2) select a plugin inserted on Track 1. Plugin GUI appears in DAW.
3) select another track from control surface, one that maybe even has the same plug-in in the same slot. DAW doesn't change to displaying newly selected track's plug-in, attention on surface goes back to channel view (Inserts/Input/Dyn/etc.). Used to be that if you selected another track, whatever plug-in was in the same slot as the previously selected track would be attentioned on the control surface, and DAW would show that GUI as well.
4) cannot close DAW GUI from control surface unless you back to the track it's on (Track 1 here), go back in from channel view, select the plug-in, and click "back" on the control surface.

Super annoying and inefficient.

[EddieJones]

Pretty much sure this is just the prefs not set right. Can you screen grab the General page from EuControl.

[Neale]

Been trying to figure out from the online guides what the proper settings are. Keep in mind that a) the uninstaller doesn't wipe these settings even when the box is ticked to do so, and b) it all USED to work well for me, and now has stopped, so whatever pref I had that carried over after the uninstall didn't work either. Having said that, I don't know what I used to have anymore, as I haven't changed them for a while.

Happy to find out I just don't know how to read manuals properly vs there being some sort of bug.