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Protools setup
Hi i was hoping i could get a lil help with my set up i am new to patch bays so if i listed all my gear could someone explain the best solution for connecting it all pls
focusrite c24 pcie core + access cards Rme raydat 32 digital input pcie card 192 digital + analogue eleven rack 003 rack + behringer tube ultra gain compresser 2 channel digidesign pre protools remotable pre amp mixdream xp summing mixer deq2496 behringer composer pro xl behringer power play headphone amp digidesign midi 10 channel alesis power amp 2 x neutrik nys-ssp-l balanced jack bays moses and mitchell 96 way bantam patchbay i picked up cheap all soldered with xlr and 1/4 trs connections any sort of diagram or advice will be so gratefully received you can mail me direct at if its easier many many thanks Last edited by undadogz; 03-24-2015 at 01:19 AM. |
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Re: Protools setup
Lots of info already on the DUC(and elsewhere) on patchbays. Here's my 2 cents, and please realize I mean no disrespect by it If you have to ask, maybe you don't really need a patchbay And, if its a used patchbay, it may prove to be more trouble than help as patchbays basically double or triple the possible signal failure points(and USED bays are likely sold off because they were causing problems).
I will breakdown some thoughts for you, looking at your list; focusrite c24-assume you mean Control 24? Mic preamps are not considered very good and most folks don't use them much, if at all pcie core + access cards-are you running this or the RME? Can't do both at once Rme raydat 32 digital input pcie card- see above, maybe don't need this, OR use this and sell the 192 and PCIe cards 192 digital + analogue-dandy if you will use the PCIe cards. Useless with the RME eleven rack-assume this is connected via SPDIF and used as your guitar "amp"? 003 rack + -serves no purpose since you have other interfaces behringer tube ultra gain compresser 2 channel-you have no place to plug this in and really don't need it as plugins will sound better digidesign pre protools remotable pre amp -patch to the analog inputs of the 192 mixdream xp summing mixer-feed from the analog outputs 1-6 of the 192, output goes to your monitors deq2496-don't use it behringer composer pro xl-don't use it. Plugins will sound better behringer power play headphone amp-feed from outputs 7&8 from the 192 digidesign midi 10 channel -what midi devices do you need to connect? alesis power amp-handy if you have non-powered studio monitors With all this said, you have 8 analog inputs that can be filled with the Digidesign Pre. No real need for a patchbay(yet). I would sell the items you don't need and buy an 8 channel lightpipe preamp to feed the 192 digital input, to give you 16 preamps for tracking. Some suggestions there include Behringer ADA8200(cheap but decent), Focusrite OctoPre Mk II Dynamic(better, and both of these would give you 8 more outputs too for more headphone mixes and/or feeds to the summing box), Midas XL48(much better preamps, but no outputs added). Note that in all of these scenarios, there is no place(or need) to connect the Control24 preamps. And, if you sell the 192 and PCIe cards, then the Digidesign Pre also has no way to connect because the RME card is looking for all digital inputs. Sorry to be so long-winded, but you have a ton of stuff and lots of it really won't integrate well, so you need to make some choices on what gear to use, before you can set about connecting it BTW, none of this is cast in stone without knowing which version of Pro Tools software you have, whether its HD or not, and if its compatible with the computer/OS you have(not mentioned)
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Re: Protools setup
Hi many thanks for your advice i am running protools 10 hd
and mac osx lion 10. something i did hear the pre on the control 24 were no good thats why i bought the avid pre i also bought the midi as i have a roland tdk drum kit keyboards etc thought it would keep it tidy. i have previously been using the 003 as my main input /output but came across a opertunity to buy the hd 2 and 192 at a great price so tense the change ...didnt realise i could use it with the eleven rack thats pretty cool my studio isn't massive just thought i could connect it all up and learn how to set up a patchbay and have the gear accessible should i want to use it and experiment ... so basicly i need a focusrite octopre mkii dynamic to make full use of the 192 thanks again :) |
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Re: Protools setup
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Last note regarding the OctoPre, the Mk II Dynamic has the outputs, the non-Dynamic version does not(making the Dynamic version a much better option). The ADA8200 is a lot cheaper if your cash is tight(but having inputs on the front makes for a messier rack)
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Re: Protools setup
Thank you for your reply can you explain this a lil more for me ???..(and remember something with 192, those analog outputs can feed unbalanced inputs, BUT...they must NOT ground the cold side of the balanced lines. The OctoPre doesn't care)??
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Re: Protools setup
the 192 has an unbuffered output, if you tie low to ground the output shorts out, so you float the low pin if you are going to an unbalanced input
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Re: Protools setup
Generally speaking, I never ever solder cold wire to ground. Either cut it off or solder to hot so there's more copper to deliver the unbalanced signal.
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Re: Protools setup
cold to hot....doesn't that short and kill the signal? If you do both ends(I understand the "more copper" idea), the twist in the wires creates a capacitor(the length of the cable) and is probably not a good idea(I did this using mic cable on a pedalboard many years ago and ended up going thru and clipping all of the extra wires).
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