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Old 01-02-2003, 12:17 AM
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Default Dealing With Vocals!

What would you prefer the most for the best result?
Recording the Lead Vocal and doubling it later within Pro Tools or just simply record it twice during the recording session?
Also what technique is the best for the background vocal harmonies?

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Old 01-02-2003, 12:31 AM
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If the singer can sing then I always prefer having the talent sing the doubled parts.

same for background vocals if the song calls for it.

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Old 01-03-2003, 04:38 AM
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I double that [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

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Old 01-03-2003, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: Dealing With Vocals!

I never quite understood the "need" to double the lead vocals (ok, I did it, too, but only as an FX on certain parts of very few songs).
What are you trying to achieve with doubling the lead vocals?
Why ain´t it enough to get one lead vocal right?

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Old 01-03-2003, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: Dealing With Vocals!

Double it now.

The only way that you could do it later would be to put a delay on it and that sounds competely different that someone doubling themselves.

Just make sure that they can hear the original when they track so they can cop themselves OK (breathing, cutoffs, etc.).
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: Dealing With Vocals!

double it for real!
To help the singer out, record your "main lead" or "guide track"...don't have them double something that isn't comped or good all the way through. After you get your guide track, then pull down the fader a tiny bit and pan it off to the side maybe 40% (or whatever feels good for the singer) for the singer to hear the seperation, and put up the new record track and keep it straight up the middle.

Doubling (tripling, quadrupling, etc.) can be used as a fattener, but really is more of an effect (which still can be extrememly subtle if mixed right).
There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing vocal stacks, if it feels good and the song feels better with it, don't be afraid of trying it!!
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:07 AM
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Also, If the double sucks, don't use it. Better to have it at the beginning of the session and mute it or throw it if not needed.

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Old 01-04-2003, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Dealing With Vocals!

Doubling the vocals and recording it twice gives you two diffrent results... It depends on the "feeling" you want to achieve, IMHO.
Sometimes, when the singer record it twice I use Auto-tune and VocAlign to match the takes...

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Old 01-15-2003, 01:57 PM
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Thank you for all the helping replies! [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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