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Old 05-02-2018, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: "Pre-Echo" Offline bounce problem

Helloooooo anybody out there ?
Seems to me this a major issue since it basically made an vital function of Pro Tools (Bounce in offline mode) unreliable, thus unfit for pro work. I cannot take the risk of bouncing anything offline since it is sometimes difficult to assess if the problem has taken place or not
And I think that I have demonstrated without any reasonable doubt that this issue has to do with some flaw in Pro Tools
I hope this will be solved soon !

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Hi,
I have juste reported in "Idea scale" a problem when bouncing offline, in certain configurations the reverb precedes the source and this is a total disaster.
I though everyone should be warned : I have produced a couple of masters that way and am very angry at discovering this, since in certain mixes you won't hear this right away in the middle of everything
Below you will find a image that shows my test session so that you can eventually reproduce this

Pro Tools 2018-3, mac ox 10,12,6, Six core 3,5GHz Mac Pro

I have devised a test sessions with :
-One mono source track with a short pulse, with bus 2 send on it
-A reverb return on aux track with a D-Verb plugin
- A stereo dummy audio track with a plugin that produces a fair amount of processing delay (for convenience I used Avid's RT Flanger but it will do the same with others)
Offline bounce import track clearly shows that something is wrong, whilst real time bounce is ok

I hope this is going to get fixed FAST
Thanks for listening
Mark Haliday
Paris, France

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1D_...z1-_MDLuFecIRO
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:41 AM
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Default Re: "Pre-Echo" Offline bounce problem

I've experienced something similar on HDX, but the other way around;

When using a master fader with a plugin on a subpath (e.g. to eq the center channel of a 5.1 bus), the center channel is only properly compensated when offline bouncing, not when realtime bouncing.
Full path width masters faders are ok, sub paths are not.
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Old 05-02-2018, 08:26 AM
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Default Re: "Pre-Echo" Offline bounce problem

There is another thread re: delay compensation in offline bounce here

What is your bounce source? Physical output or Bus?
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Old 05-02-2018, 02:53 PM
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No problem here, so far. Online and offline.


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Old 05-03-2018, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: "Pre-Echo" Offline bounce problem

I am a HDX user and have had the exact same offline bounce issues. I'm surprised there haven't been more posts on this issue. I've had them ever since the release of PT 2018. Avid please help!
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: "Pre-Echo" Offline bounce problem

Bump. This really sucks. Possibly the worst bug ever. Guess Im headed back to 12.4. Really glad Ive been maintaining my 2 hd subscriptions.

Pretty sure this is HDX only.
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Old 06-25-2018, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: "Pre-Echo" Offline bounce problem

Bumping this problem because this is getting very irritating that nothing has been done to correct this bug.
Offline bouncing is a productivity godsend. When mixing somebody's complicated project when that person is physically at the other end of the world, being able to send 6 or 7 version of mixes in a day for two or three 5' long tracks, it makes a HUGE difference when using offline bouncing.
Hours lost here because of this stupid bug

Please Avid solve this, thank you
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