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Re: 2019 iMac i9 + PT 2018 + Mojave
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Btw, I don't mean to take away from the original post. Error -6101 is a huge concern for me too. |
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Re: 2019 iMac i9 + PT 2018 + Mojave
Re RAM, everyone you are for sure correct, 8GB is not ideal but Apple charges ridiculous amounts of money to buy it configured with more. I'm intending to upgrade myself once the budget recovers a bit.
(Interestingly enough, can verify that the built-in output only supports Fs up to 48kHz... unlike my dinosaur 2010 MBP which can go up to 96k, though I suppose I will never be taking my 27" iMac to a coffee shop for editing.... would have been helpful for troubleshooting though.) I am running 10.14.4 which is the latest version of Mojave; it's what came installed on the machine. I'm not quite a week in so can't give a comprehensive assessment of fan noise, but I have not noticed any obvious issues with it yet. AlexLakis, glad to hear you are running Mojave without issues. I tried a different brand TB3-2 adapter yesterday and still had the problem, so I can confirm that the Apple adapter was not the issue. (Also, surprisingly the cheapest one out there...) CPU overloads have cleared up a ton since disabling hyperthreading, to what I think is a reasonable amount, and meanwhile my sessions are much more responsive. As others have mentioned, I anticipate that will only improve with even more RAM. The main question left is where the clicking is coming from. https://www.dropbox.com/s/atsucg0s44...licks.wav?dl=0 Here are a few seconds from a recent bounce that demonstrates what I am hearing. Does this sound like anything anyone has heard before? Edit: Note that, in this session, I am using AFX onboard my Antelope interface as a hardware insert in Pro Tools, so the bounce path includes a round trip to/from my interface via Thunderbolt. I suspect the Thunderbolt connection is where the clicking is coming from, but not sure if it's PT or Mojave or interface that is at the root of Thunderbolt issue. Last edited by rwbreck; 04-08-2019 at 09:57 PM. |
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The iMac Pro has a Xeon W CPU and it does have quad memory channels and a lot higher-end thermal design. On memory: it's a PITA as there is no memory access door to allow easy memory DIMM upgrades. That's likely becase there are more DIMMs supported and you would gave to have to gave large access doors, and the heavier end cooling heat pipes and venting for the Xeon get in the way more (and you also need more cooling airflow for all those DIMMs). The Xeon has ECC and that and the extra cores on the higest end Xeon Ws really the only benefit, otherwise these core for core are just equal to desktop Core i9/i7 processors... but more to the real desktop versions of those Core i7/i9 CPUs with higher TDP that the near laptop ones used elsewhere. And at the very high end can a iMac Pro really keep all those cores running and the cool enough, the thermal design in the iMac Pro looks pretty light for a high-end system, so I'm dubious, but don't have one to try. Basically I'm just opposed to the design tradeoffs of jamming all that heat in either an iMac or iMac Pro into a compact all-in-one computer and really really wish Apple would finally deliver a serious Mac Pro computer for you know, actual professional users. The Mac Mini finally got an upgrade and is a nice little box, but still expensive. It's also a close to laptop design, personally I'd stick with it and wait and see if Apple is able to deliver a decent new Mac Pro and a non-totally-obscene price. Apple keeps screwing up the high end, other folks will step in. Dell announced pretty impressive looking Precision 7000 workstations this week, maybe time to wake up Apple (not that I actually would buy anything from Dell). Editorial over Last edited by Darryl Ramm; 04-08-2019 at 10:48 PM. |
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Re: 2019 iMac i9 + PT 2018 + Mojave
Thanks for the in-depth information I'll probably hang on to the mini until we hear news of a Mac pro, which I'm hoping within the next few months but I'm convinced that it won't be cheap. Back to the i7 mini versus i9 iMac, I would like to run my sessions side by side and see the results. I'm almost sure the iMac will run better but by how much. We'll begin seeing results here on the DUC soon enough, so this too will be interesting (thumbs up).
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Re: 2019 iMac i9 + PT 2018 + Mojave
Just wondering if anyone has a/b’d i7 mini vs iMac pro vs imac i9? Looking to pull trigger on one of these machines since I can say the Mac Pro is a little overkill for me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X40N0HSm6Yw By the way, my 2011 17" i7 MacBook Pro is getting long in the tooth. It ALWAYS had heat issues, and Apple actually replaced the graphics and motherboard (out of warranty-free of charge--class action lawsuit). Any ideas on replacing? My reading of the reports shows that the 2019 i9 isn't AS HOT as the 2018. Are there any MacBook Pros that can handle on-the-fly, portable, untethered editing, both Pro Tools and video? The lack of ports and MagSafe is distressing. Not to mention the fact that my UAD Laptop solo express card SHARC won't be usable; AND I'll miss having 2 internal 1tb SSD's. But the UAD Arrow is thunderbolt bus powered. I digress. But the heat thing with Apple is getting to be a boring story at this point; not to mention the lack of ports on their pro laptops... Oh, and the iMac i9 8 core does NOT use the T2 chip, for whatever that's worth. And the RAM is EASILY upgradable... Here's the thermal test on the i9 iMac... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXIaSXU99-k Last edited by TimothyJohn; 06-16-2019 at 11:11 AM. Reason: sp. |
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Re: 2019 iMac i9 + PT 2018 + Mojave
Video applications that may be relatively single threaded and/or use a GPU a lot may not be that relevant to behavior running large Pro Tools sessions. Your best bet is finding other users here who run what you want to on a similar computer. Starting a new clear thread with that question may help you.
I'm not sure why you mention the T.2 I don't believe that affects updating DRAM. It sure does affect third parties changing security related things, like touch ID sensors. The new Mac Pro and standard iMacs are at very different thermal design points. If spending that sort of money anyhow I would likely run past the iMac Pro to the new Mac Pro... I am picking up a maxed out 2019 MacBook Pro i9 in a few days (maxed everything except 2TB SSD), will know more about them when I get to play with it... but my sessions absolutely do not need that much horsepower. So I'll have to play with stuff just to see what it can do. My 2016 Quad core i7 MacBook Pro is less of a heat hog that my previous 17" MacBooks, they would get so hot to handle. Even if the i7 quad is throttling I don't notice issues wit my workloads. Last edited by Darryl Ramm; 06-16-2019 at 12:51 PM. |
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https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-has-...a-report-says/ I wouldn't buy a new Macbook right now, without knowing what that is all about.
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