Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Learn & Support


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > Pro Tools Hardware > Third Party Interfaces

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 10-07-2014, 08:42 PM
nst7 nst7 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cincinnati OH
Posts: 9,775
Default Re: Apogee introduces new Ensemble Thunderbolt

Darryl, you may want to check out the Gearslutz thread (it's in the "137th AES" thread). Don Spacht from Apogee has been answering questions all day about this.

Of particular note, he mentioned that the digital conversion on this is actually a step above the Quartet/Duet 2, putting it just under the Symphony IO, so this should sound pretty darn good (the preamps are the same ones from the Quartet/Duet 2).
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-07-2014, 08:51 PM
Barry Johns Barry Johns is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 3,567
Default Re: Apogee introduces new Ensemble Thunderbolt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcel Risberg View Post
Yeah I know. It's just that I like the sound and robustness of XLRs (at the source) better than from DSUBs. In this case though it's not a game changer.

I don't mind 2U audio interfaces, at least if its my primary.

This is an uneducated comment. There is NO difference between a dsub to xlr cable than xlr jacks directly on the box! Dsub to XLR cables can easily be had for 50 bucks used.
__________________
HD Native Pcie, PTHD 11, PT12 Vanilla, Omni, Lynx Aurora 16, 192 I/O (16 in/8 out), 24 Fader D-Command, lots of preamps and compressors.

MacPro 5.1 (12) Core (2009 MacPro 8 Core Upgraded to a 12 Core MacPro), 56 Gig Ram, SSD System & 3 - 2TB Drives, OSX 10.9.5, Windows 10 Via Bootcamp
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-08-2014, 08:40 AM
John_Toolbox's Avatar
John_Toolbox John_Toolbox is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 5,331
Default Re: Apogee introduces new Ensemble Thunderbolt

Its missing a remote… Other than that, this would make a perfect replacement for my TC Electronic SK48, it has more mic pres and more flexible IO.
__________________
- John

If a MIDI event triggers a sample of a tree falling and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-08-2014, 08:43 AM
John_Toolbox's Avatar
John_Toolbox John_Toolbox is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 5,331
Default Re: Apogee introduces new Ensemble Thunderbolt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Johns View Post
This is an uneducated comment. There is NO difference between a dsub to xlr cable than xlr jacks directly on the box! Dsub to XLR cables can easily be had for 50 bucks used.
Sonically, there is no difference. But XLR is much less likely to fail. I have seen many Rosetta D-subs fail, the weight of the breakout cable stresses the pins and eventually you have to wiggle the cable to get it to work. And sometimes the screws break off or strip out, which further weakens the connection. Obviously if the breakout cable is properly supported this shouldn't be a problem, but it's something I've seen more than once.
__________________
- John

If a MIDI event triggers a sample of a tree falling and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-08-2014, 08:49 AM
Darryl Ramm Darryl Ramm is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 13,408
Default Re: Apogee introduces new Ensemble Thunderbolt

Quote:
Originally Posted by John_Toolbox View Post
Sonically, there is no difference. But XLR is much less likely to fail. I have seen many Rosetta D-subs fail, the weight of the breakout cable stresses the pins and eventually you have to wiggle the cable to get it to work. And sometimes the screws break off or strip out, which further weakens the connection. Obviously if the breakout cable is properly supported this shouldn't be a problem, but it's something I've seen more than once.

Don't use a break out cable, use a D-sub equipped patch panel and short few dollar ribbon cable that weighs almost nothing and this won't happen.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-08-2014, 06:56 PM
Marcel Risberg's Avatar
Marcel Risberg Marcel Risberg is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 393
Default Re: Apogee introduces new Ensemble Thunderbolt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Johns View Post
This is an uneducated comment. There is NO difference between a dsub to xlr cable than xlr jacks directly on the box! Dsub to XLR cables can easily be had for 50 bucks used.
Congratulations on your 2000th post Barry. Impressive.

I might be wrong about this (after all, english is not my native language), but, calling my comment as being uneducated sounded a bit harsh or unfriendly to me. I wasn't guessing or trying to mislead anyone. I was speaking from my own experience.

Don't you think it's fantastic to be part of a competent online forum as the DUC/APAC? This forum has a vast variety of members; engineering people and artists visiting daily. All of us carry various skills, sound ideals, experience as well as pure opinions to the topics. I think it's phenomenal to be part of it. You're obviously quite a contributor to the forums yourself.

It's very okay to disagree on things. Can't we just keep it friendly and not question peoples education or competence?
__________________

Marcel Risberg
Production sound and audio post - ljuddesign.se
Enthusiastically sharing knowledge and experience at Stockholm Film School.

🛠 Pro Tools Ultimate 2018.12 · HD Native · HD Omni
🎚 EuControl 18.3.0 · Artist Control · Mix · Control App
🦑 MacPro5,1 · 8C16T @2.4GHz · 16GB · SSDs · macOS 10.13.6 (17G5019)
📺 Separate video playback machine
🥇 Covered by ZDT/TLC · Keeping DAW OS clutter free
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-08-2014, 09:22 PM
YYR123's Avatar
YYR123 YYR123 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 13,666
Default Re: Apogee introduces new Ensemble Thunderbolt

I agree Marcel we should be considerate and it is wonderful to be able to access so much and so many ideas......

However the comment I don't think was crass or rude...maybe a bit to forward and direct....but that is totally different than being rude for rude's sake.

It is the internet after all and we can't hear the tone with which it was spoken......


However I agree with Barry a balanced cable is a balanced cable no matter what format the connector is....

Now there are crap xlr's and there are Mogami D25's that are out of my league, so it just depends
__________________
Daniel
HDX - PT12.5.1 - HD I/O 16x8x8
Win10-Pro (v1709)- 6 Core i7-6850k - ASUS X99 Deluxe ii
D-Command Main Unit - 'Ole Blue


http://www.sknoteaudio.com/ plugins rock and are affordable.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-09-2014, 04:35 AM
groundcontrol's Avatar
groundcontrol groundcontrol is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 961
Default Re: Apogee introduces new Ensemble Thunderbolt

Also depends on if you intend or need to plug/unplug the unit on a daily basis. Like for location work.

That would be something to consider.
__________________
Can you please send yourself over fiber to go spam some other forum?

Darryl Ramm
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-10-2016, 09:08 AM
gthm's Avatar
gthm gthm is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NJ/NY
Posts: 124
Default Re: Apogee introduces new Ensemble Thunderbolt

Any users? Love mine.
__________________
Pro Tools 2019.6
Mac OS 10.14.5
iMac (Retina 5K, 27", late 2014)
(4.0GHz i7, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD internal)
Apogee Ensemble Thunderbolt
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-13-2016, 02:47 AM
moleif moleif is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Toronto, Canda
Posts: 20
Default Re: Apogee introduces new Ensemble Thunderbolt

Bought mine Nov/2015. Absolutely love it! Also, using it as a master clock. Everything sounds better and can autoswitch sample rates on the fly.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Apogee introduces Quartet interface nst7 Pro Tools 10 5 09-05-2012 08:44 AM
PT 9.0.6 HD TDM with Apogee Ensemble Paul B. Pro Tools 9 1 04-01-2012 04:59 AM
DIGI 003 + Apogee Ensemble + Apogee Big Ben = World Clock marcioguitar 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 5 10-11-2011 02:24 PM
Apogee Ensemble mickeymassacre Pro Tools 9 0 11-13-2010 09:24 PM
Apogee ensemble for 8 more A-D ins on OO1 PCI? voltech 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 0 02-07-2007 09:16 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:12 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com