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Old 12-10-2011, 10:55 PM
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Default High vs low end I/O question for a newbie

I know this is vague and one answer probably doesn't fit all.....but indulge me please......if it's a dumb question just ignore it and move on.

How much difference does the interface make when only mixing? For example, is there really a huge difference.....when only mixing, no recording mics or live signals.....between say, an 002 or 003 as opposed to something considered higher end like an Apogee or Lynx.

Never having had the chance to hear anything but Avid/Digi interfaces, I'm just trying to learn if is it the concensus that a higher end interface matters as greatly when mixing as when recoding?
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: High vs low end I/O question for a newbie

Big difference to someone who knows what to listen for. Might not be a "big" difference to a girlfriend and such.
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I know this is vague and one answer probably doesn't fit all.....but indulge me please......if it's a dumb question just ignore it and move on.

How much difference does the interface make when only mixing? For example, is there really a huge difference.....when only mixing, no recording mics or live signals.....between say, an 002 or 003 as opposed to something considered higher end like an Apogee or Lynx.

Never having had the chance to hear anything but Avid/Digi interfaces, I'm just trying to learn if is it the concensus that a higher end interface matters as greatly when mixing as when recoding?
Hi,

The only difference would be the quality of your monitor path! That is getting a good quality output to monitor your mixing. Better interface would provide this, plus top quality interfaces generally having better master clock. Other than that the interface has no bearing on the sound when only mixing in the box.


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As said it's the quality of the DA conversion here which is the biggie and it does vary across the board.

For the record, the DA conversion on the 002 was terrible and vastly improved on with the 003. I wouldn't say you need to go Apogee or Lynx but it's definitely worth having half decent monitoring DAC because ultimately if what your hearing is truer to the source then life will be easier during mixdown.

I ended up buying a TC Konnekt 24D for £100 and using it as an SPDIF DAC box and a mic pre, total bargain and solved the crappy monitoring issue i had in the short term and gave me two usable pre's at the same time.
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How much difference does the interface make when only mixing? For example, is there really a huge difference.....when only mixing, no recording mics or live signals.....between say, an 002 or 003 as opposed to something considered higher end like an Apogee or Lynx.
Hi John,

One thing I like to mention in these type of discussions is the fact that people - especially people like yourself who may not be very experienced yet - understand how relevant the gear in general is as apposed to things like the actual performance and quality of the music in general.

Gear talk is all fun and good but at the end of the day I feel it very often misleads people to some extend. Yes ... High quality gear, wether microphones / mic pre's / outboard gear / analog to digital / digital to analog / what software etc etc etc ... it is all VERY important but at the same time means absolutely NOTHING .... NOTHING if your source is useless.

I've said this time and time before ... I'd much rather have a great musician with a great song and the worst gear in the world to record him then have the most expensive high end studio in the world with every vintage mic I can dream of and have to record someone with absolute no talent or feel for music.

Now ... that said ... does the interface make a difference when you're mixing ? Yes of course. We're talking Digital to analog here and yes that is extremely important. Just important are your speakers though.
Look at it this way ... if you can't hear it you can not modify or steer it right ?

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Never having had the chance to hear anything but Avid/Digi interfaces, I'm just trying to learn if is it the concensus that a higher end interface matters as greatly when mixing as when recoding?
I'm going to be careful with my comments here as they may be percieved as biased. Still ... They are used on a daily basis in the majority of high end / mid range and low end studios across the world. Both for mixing and recording. Both are equally important in my opinion. Again ... if you cannot hear it you cannot steer it to where it needs to be.

Also ... keep in mind that everything starts with the recording process. If you cannot hear it at that point and steer it in the right direction you won't be able to recover it comes edit or mix time.

Take all this with a proper grain of salt please. At the end of the day the one thing that matters most is that you have are able to take part in a creative process in a creative and constructive way. And that process has to be fun ... not a battle where part of your mind is constantly pulled off track by a nearly paranoid thought about wether you are using the proper gear or not.

The gear are just the tools. Nothing more nothing less. ight your battles with the arms at hand, realizing of course the limitations and by all means have fun with it. Only when you learn about the imitations of your current gear you will be able to judge what is worthwhile for the next step.

Hope this makes sense ...

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