Interface advice for Native

[Carl Lie]

Originally Posted by weezul

this x1billion. PCIe RayDAT is an absolute diamond of an interface. And with PCIe staying in the new mac pro, it should hold it's value and continue to be updated driver-wise for a long time.

I used an RME Raydat before I went HD. Was rock solid.

C

[aremos]

Anyone using DANTE via ethernet cable for Native?

I know it's limited to 32 tracks simultaneously but if one is in the box & only needs 2 to mix it's irrelevant.

[digiot]

Originally Posted by aremos

Anyone using DANTE via ethernet cable for Native?

I know it's limited to 32 tracks simultaneously but if one is in the box & only needs 2 to mix it's irrelevant.

You would still need to free up a PCIe slot for a Dante PCIe card. And buy a Dante interface to get the analog I/O. Not the most cost effective way to go if you ask me.

[Darryl Ramm]

Originally Posted by digiot

You would still need to free up a PCIe slot for a Dante PCIe card. And buy a Dante interface to get the analog I/O. Not the most cost effective way to go if you ask me.

Maybe the "via Ethernet Cable" meant using Dante Virtual Sound Card, i.e. without a Dante Card in the Mac. But then all Dante uses Ethernet Cables... So who knows, other users cannot provide clear help here if the questions are not clear.

[aremos]

Originally Posted by digiot

You would still need to free up a PCIe slot for a Dante PCIe card. And buy a Dante interface to get the analog I/O. Not the most cost effective way to go if you ask me.

Why would I need hardware PCIe card for Dante? Isn't it a virtual (software) ""sound card?

Originally Posted by Darryl Ramm

Maybe the "via Ethernet Cable" meant using Dante Virtual Sound Card, i.e. without a Dante Card in the Mac. But then all Dante uses Ethernet Cables... So who knows, other users cannot provide clear help here if the questions are not clear.

Correct, that's what was meant.

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by aremos

Why would I need hardware PCIe card for Dante? Isn't it a virtual (software) ""sound card?

Correct, that's what was meant.

Dante doesn't run at full speed with a built-in Ethernet connection. Apparently they use some kind of additions to regular Ethernet networking h/w & s/w that don't run at full capable speed on garden variety Ethernet.

[aremos]

Originally Posted by musicman691

Dante doesn't run at full speed with a built-in Ethernet connection. Apparently they use some kind of additions to regular Ethernet networking h/w & s/w that don't run at full capable speed on garden variety Ethernet.

What do mean?
That it "doesn't run at full speed", "that don't run at full capable speed" & therefore is not reliable or has latency?

Then why would all these companies go full-in on Dante?

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by aremos

What do mean?
That it "doesn't run at full speed", "that don't run at full capable speed" & therefore is not reliable or has latency?

Then why would all these companies go full-in on Dante?

Never said anything about reliability or latency. To get the full benefit of what Dante can do you need their specific Ethernet interface card. A generic Ethernet will do but there are limits. Using regular built-in Ethernet doesn't amongst other things, give one the full interface networking capability. You really need to read up on this.

[aremos]

Originally Posted by musicman691

...To get the full benefit of what Dante can do you need their specific Ethernet interface card. A generic Ethernet will do but there are limits. Using regular built-in Ethernet doesn't amongst other things, give one the full interface networking capability...

Isn't the Dante Virtual Soundcard software based & not a physical "internet card" per se ... and that it runs (talks to) interface via ethernet (Cat 5 or 6) cable?

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by aremos

Isn't the Dante Virtual Soundcard software based & not a physical "internet card" per se ... and that it runs (talks to) interface via ethernet (Cat 5 or 6) cable?

The DVS will run over regular ethernet but as I'm saying you don't get the full benefits of the Dante system running that way. You need their special interface card. That's what you're missing.

An ethernet card is NOT an internet card as such - it's just a general network connection card & protocol.