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I have been down the same road as you. Been using Protools from inception. From SoundTools to ProtoolsHDX. I have tried to rid myself from Protools DSP systems many times. I switched from the Mix24 system to a native system but ended up with an HD system anyway because at the time Native was just to weak. Then I did the same thing when Protools switched to PCIe HD systems. Went native and came running back to HD again. When HDX came out I held out for a long time and moved to a "hybrid" system, Using Protools10HD to track and a native Protools system to mix and compose. this is where I went through all the different interfaces. And eventually I gave in again and switched to HDX. Like you I held Apogee as the standard, from the AD8000 on my Mix system to the AD16X on my HD Systems. At one point I switched to the Symphony I/O but was disappointed in the way it sounded compared to my other Apogee's. So my take on solid drivers might be somewhat different from yours. Let me explain. The reason why I keep coming back to DSP based Protools systems is not because it sounds better. Its because I like its workflow. I can track, sometimes up to 20 inputs at once, add Plug-ins and monitor of the system latency free without having to resort to using 3rd party mixing applications and separate monitor mixes. I was able to do the same thing with RME PCIe cards and to certain extend with the RME UFX on fast computers. The problem with those was that as soon as I started taxing the processor (especially VI's) it all came crashing down. When Thunderbolt was introduced I tried it all over again, got one of the first Apollo (silver face) with a Thunderbolt card to try. Only to find out the Thunderbolt card was just a firewire over Thunderbolt converter! Tried the Lynx Aurora with Thunderbolt option which came pretty close but at the time was just as expensive as using HD hardware. UAD fixed the Thunderbolt issue with the newer (black face) interfaces so I tried again. Out of all the "newer" Thunderbolt interfaces I tried (Apogee, Antelope, Apollo and Lynx) The Apollo had the highest latencies when monitoring through Protools!? And this is without even adding their plugins. So from my perspective they make the worst drivers of all of them. I have yet to try the new Lynx AuroraN series but I am sure it is as good if not better then the old ones but their pricing is insanely high. I am waiting on delivery of an new RME UFX+ and have pretty high hopes. So in conclusion, I believe that "the best" interface is really subject to the users expectations and workflow. My particular workflow is really just a continuation of old tape and in-line console based workflows. You didn't have to patch in a second sub mixer so you could hear what was being recorded at the same time as what was on tape. The same goes for Digi/Avid DSP based systems. At the end of the day for me, as long as I throw money at it the DSP workflow still works |
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Ive been holding off on purchasing the Apollo Twin Duo MKll waiting on UA coming up with another deal to include the Neve preamp similar to the deal they had running until the end of December 2017. Could shoot myself for not purchasing the interface at that time. However will wait another few weeks and then bite the bullet as Ive now ordered the iMac to include Thunderbolt conversion lead. Would one of the reverbs that come with the Apollo suffice as I already have the Lexicon PCM Native Bundle? Checked the price of ram on Crucial and it is indeed much cheaper than using Apple so have ordered that as well. Have noted advice concerning external backup so I wonder if you or anyone else could recommend a particular HDD unit that is compatible? |
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However I would highly recommend you to just demo several reverbs of their range. Maybe you find one that suits your needs perfectly? At least it doesn't cost you anything to just try them all out. Me personally use the AKG BX20 and the EMT 140 from the UAD list because I also already have the Lexicon PCM Bundle and several others from Waves to Valhalla. I mainly use the UA reverbs during recording inserted on an Aux Track in the UA console 2 for monitoring. That's where you cannot use the Lexicon Bundle actually. However I have to say the UA Lexicon, the Ocean Way as well as the EMT 250 are all very well sounding plug ins indeed. Great for recording and mixing. Just demo all the stuff yourself and check out if there's anything you would like to have finally. Quote:
I have used it myself on several systems successfully. Quote:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/LaCie-Rugge...=Lacie+7200rpm If you would need a lot of storage space this one might be a good solution finally. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OBHW2...ing=UTF8&psc=1 ...I have got such a one myself and I have to say it has done a really good job so far. If you want it really fast and modern and compatible to your iMacs ports without any adapters. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Por...70_&dpSrc=srch As mentioned before HDDs may be more durable as backup drives than SSDs however you can use SSDs as well of course. They are good and reliable drives as well these days. These are just 3 examples you may consider for your backup drive. You may find yourself other ones of course. Just make sure itīs an 7200rpm HDD and USB 3 at least. The best of success to you. Cheers. |
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