Realverb: the verdict.....

[Doug Shugarts]

Before sinking more money into a plug-in, I'd like to know if Realverb lives up to the hype. I produce/mix mostly orchestral and other 'acoustic' music -- would Realverb be a good choice for this type of music? What are its strengths and weaknesses? How much DSP does it use? Does it approach the level of my TC M3000?

Thanks much for your time.

[uno1234]

Save your money for the reverb one or the m3000-- but I think the Waves Renaissance Reverb is much better than what people make it out to be. Best TDM verb I've heard to date (haven't heard the Digi R1 yet). Of course, that doesn't say much.

[snoopy]

Realverb is the only tdm verb I have liked, but it still doesn't work for every song (to me). If I had to choose only one, this would be it.

[E. Luke]

Waves Renaissance Reverb ?????

[Chris Lambrechts]

I received Realverb yesterday and am about to install it....... and TEST it.

Going to compare it with :
TDM : Lexiverb - Megaverb - Trueverb - D-Verb

outboard :

Lexicon 300L - PCM 91
TC M5000

I'll let you have my 2 cents......

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Chris Lambrechts

[Kevin Nettleingham]

Does anyone know if there is a demo version of Digi's Reverb One available for download? I can't find one on their website.


Thanks,

Kevin

[Chris Lambrechts]

It's good BASTA ....... and that says about all ........


It is the best plug verb I know, why ...... ??? Reverbs are very subjective, I love my M5000 where other people don't like it at all. I also claim that the pcm91 sounds at least as good (if not........ ) as the 300L. Every one of my outboards has very specific things I like about them. I like the pcm91 on vocals, and yet when looking for a real life hall to add to classical recorded instrument or voices, I will never go without the M5000. As far as the Reverb one Plugin ...... mmmmmm

what can I say : trying to set up a similar parameter hall in both the M5000 and the plugin and testing it on a string quartett didn't fool me once ........ I picked the M5000 blind 10/10. But I pick the M5000 against the Lexi's 10/10 too in that situation.

next I set up a nice hall for a ballad vocal ...... predelay so you can hear it ...... tail with enhanced highs and filtered lows ...... 2.0 sec's ...... bla bla bla....... same with the pcm91 and the 300L ....... now this is where the lexi's normally win 100 miles ahead....... why ..... because the amount of fx you can add WITHOUT loosing the transparancy and presence of a vocal with a lexicon is enormous ......... How about the plugin then ....... well ........ this is going to hurt the lexi fans ....... Yep ...... it's there and Damn Damn Damn Damn close ......... Almost embarressed to admit it but the blind test fooled me more than once, ..... and also my friend who I invited in for the test. I am an outboard verb addict and have allways dissed the tdm verbs uptill now,...... If they continue to develop and improve plugins like this,...... lexi 'd better come up with some miracle verbs FAST because NO WAY I am ever going to put down the dollars for their 960 super mega 480*4 verb machine, Hell the 960 has a Pentium inside, at least this way I can keep it MAC all the way ......


for all you blind test professionals out there ....... try it ..... but do a REAL blind test .......

I didn't try everything in the same way .... that is it didn't spent three hours comparing plates , and another three with rooms etc etc ..... but my surf throughout all off them did make up my mind once and for all :

Reverb One is a High end OUTBOARD quality worthy reverb BASTA.

PRIVATE MESSAGE FOR DIGI : can you please start doing the same for dynamics and eq .............


PS: almost forgot ....... the interface ..... just the way it should be .... all the parameters editable the way you want it .... congrats to the interface designers

Oh yes, and I didn't even get to the dynamics section on the plugin yet ......


Chris Lambrechts

[This message has been edited by Chris Lambrechts (edited December 18, 2000).]

[bslack]

I guess I should call KOL about this, but I would liked to have seen RealVerb with 5.1 input as well.

That is to say, RealVerb does a great job of making a 5.1 model foma mono or stereo source, but what if you've built a 5.1 environment that you want to do a 5.1 modeled reberb on. I guess you could envoke 3 stereo RealVerbs, but then they aren't truly modeled from each other (plus it very messy with 9 stereo auxes just for verb).

Brian

[the exploding boy]

chris,
i read your post and i'm now wondering: i was on the way to buy an outboard reverb processor ( i would have to choose between pcm91 and m3000)... do u mean i should wait the reverbone, so i can choose between the three ?
(it would be a big surprise for me ! )

[Chris Lambrechts]

exploding boy,

If I were you, I'd compare all three, taking following in mind.

Reverb One eats up 1 Mixfarm chip, 1 of the powerfull first two that is, so for large sessions, take that in mind .........

Outboard processors do NOT eat any dsp except for the Aux you create for it which is added to the mixer plugin.

Soundwise, I'd say the R1 leans towards the PCM, I honestly don't know the M3000, which people claim to be better than the M5000 I have. Except for that, Lexicon and TC are completely different machines bith in character of sound and for handeling. My guess / experience is that Lexicon makes the better overall presets, especially in the PCM91, the presets are VERY good and need almost NO additional parameter editing. On the other hand, my experience with TC tells me that the presets are good BUT to get the MOST out of a TC verb, you need to know whats going on inside a reverb to construct your own. That's for me the true strength of my TC M5000. I can create a natural / more realistic sounding hall with it than with the Lexi's.

Except for the fact that the R1 is I think more or less 50% of the cost of the PCM or the M3000, I realy think you should think about DSP first. If you have ENOUGH , but realy ENOUGH, for that is a Mix + +, and budget is an issue, go for the R1, otherwise , go for the outboard.

And do some blind tests,......... please ......... don't buy anuthing just because someone says it's good. Make your own ears decide. There are people who make a Quadraverb sounding better then some other people a 480L

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Chris Lambrechts