Impressed with PT 12

[Wall2Wall]

Originally Posted by coolbass

Ouch, a bit of an harsh answer.
But most of what you say is true. However, you can easily make objects of parts you want to mute and do muting this way. I find midi/VI implementation rather elegant. You cannot send a track to more than 1 submixbus at the same time, you can however use auxbusses for that.
Samplitude certainly has its own way of doing things, but at first sight I seem to like it and it seems to suit my way of working.

Easily?. So much slower than a realtime push of mute button. Stop project, measure, split, go into new object and hit mute. Make sure you don't get a terrible fade or pop on the split. For multiple tracks it's a brutal compromise. Also, you can't do that on an effects send when u want to do a long delay throw or reverb splash. How about when you want to just turn off the delays at the end of song or drop when u don't want them to delay out. Also, Aux Busses in samp are just effect sends. Doesn't help with lack of bussing system. I was with this program from SEK'd 5.1, then when it was bought by Emagic and shelved, etc. Elegant is not how I would describe midi/VI implementation is Samp. Wow! far from that.

[deanrichard]

Obviously we work far differently from one another. Nothing wrong with that, but it leads to drawing completely different conclusions about it as a tool.

I find PT clumsy, slow, and tedious. Editing is the worst. I the same things in Samplitude and find it elegant and easy. I don't use busses the way you do because I don't find the ability to send a same track to multiple busses useful. You have sends for that. Mute automation seems counter-intuitive to me when it's so easy to draw a volume curve

Originally Posted by Wall2Wall

I had samp since version 5.1 up until X. Know it inside and out. dude there is no bus system in samp. all u can do is send a track to one submix. That's not a buss system. Try doing real bussing. midi/VI is clumsy and slow. I was not comparing samp to pt as midi in samp is clumsy but midi in pt is basic. Automation in samp takes 3 extra steps to do what's needed and there is no mute automation. Try and automate a mute on a fader. Can't be done. That's unacceptable in 2015 and automation 101. Try doing volume automation in samp to use as a de-esser. Not pretty. Try setting up a tempo grid. See how many steps it takes you and how long. Sidechain? Try using "stutter edit" or something similar (midi audio control). Not pretty and more steps than needed in any daw. PT was based on audio and brought in midi. Just as Samplitude was with it's endless menus.

[priorytools]

Originally Posted by Stig Eliassen

I took the plunge, and went all-in with PT 12. Installed it on my studio Westmere, and on my iMac.
Mixed 5 songs for a band in the studio with no hassle. Tuning, elastic audio, automation, beat detective, etc worked nicely.

Now, I've just finished a recording with PT 12 and RME hardware over 6 days in a cinema theater. It all went smooth, so I'm happy.

This must be the best first release of PT I've ever worked with.

Well done, Avid.

Hi Stig.
Did you do a complete clean install ?
I'm going up to 12.1 HD from 11.3.1 HD. .
My gut says do a complete fresh clean install, my diary says hurry up .

[Stig Eliassen]

Originally Posted by priorytools

Hi Stig.
Did you do a complete clean install ?
I'm going up to 12.1 HD from 11.3.1 HD. .
My gut says do a complete fresh clean install, my diary says hurry up .

Yes, I did. Started out with a new system drive. It took quite a while, but the system has been running very well, and I have my PT 11.3.1/ OS 10.8.5 drive as a backup.

I also took the opportunity to only install software and plugins that I use frequently. I have way too many licenses on my iLoks.

[priorytools]

Originally Posted by Stig Eliassen

Yes, I did. Started out with a new system drive. It took quite a while, but the system has been running very well, and I have my PT 11.3.1/ OS 10.8.5 drive as a backup.

I also took the opportunity to only install software and plugins that I use frequently. I have way too many licenses on my iLoks.

Hi Stig.
Thanks for your reply.
Yes, very appropriate. .
I too whittled down the chaff hanging around when I went to 11.3.1
May I ask, you're using 10.8.5 with your 12.1 . is that correct?
I'm thinking of staying with 10.9.5 for the PT 12.1 install. .

[Stig Eliassen]

Originally Posted by priorytools

Hi Stig.
Thanks for your reply.
Yes, very appropriate. .
I too whittled down the chaff hanging around when I went to 11.3.1
May I ask, you're using 10.8.5 with your 12.1 . is that correct?
I'm thinking of staying with 10.9.5 for the PT 12.1 install. .

Correct. I'm still on 10.8.5.

[Stig Eliassen]

That said, I recorded quite a bit using my iMac with OS 10.9.5 and RME hardware, and didn't have a single hiccup.

[priorytools]

Dokes . .
I'm gonna stick with 10.9.5.
Thanks Dude.