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Re: Why PT10 is not 64 bit... let's get this over with ;)
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Do you use PT's ? If so, are you upgrading? Also, isn't there other companies that are already 64bit that spent time and money in developing the path and charge a lot less? What's your connection with Avid? |
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Re: Why PT10 is not 64 bit... let's get this over with ;)
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Re: Why PT10 is not 64 bit... let's get this over with ;)
Wow.
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Re: Why PT10 is not 64 bit... let's get this over with ;)
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And alienate the user base even more with cutting all the tdm hardware out of the equation in one move. Devs are already working on the 64 bit plugs, you think they wait until the last minute? |
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Re: Why PT10 is not 64 bit... let's get this over with ;)
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Are they? They can try and create 64 bit plugs but do they have a beta 64 bit version of PT to test them on? It can't be that useful to try and create code with no way to run and test it. And if there is a beta, aren't they already putting in the effort you're concerned about on that other version of the program? |
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Why are some still talking about VST and AU support? OTOH, it has been said that this was more of a post release. So, I understand some not wanting to upgrade because PT 10 does not have the features they want, while being concerned about getting hit with higher upgrade prices going from 9 to PT 11 64 bit when it is released. Maybe if Avid came out with a statement in the near future that the upgrade price for PT 11 64 bit will be significantly lower for those who upgraded to PT 10 then all of this noise would go away. That would provide certainty for those feeling like they're damned if they upgrade now, damned if they do later. Of course Avid doesn't have to. Just thinking out loud. All of the other rehashed PT 64 bit discussions, like VST support, are pointless now. Just keep reading the OP and wait. |
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The comparison to other DAWs being 64 bit already always leaves out the fact that they don't have nearly the number of hardware, software and 3rd party device support that Pro Tools has. They don't have the backwards compatibility, they have different audio engines, they don't have the same video software or hardware support, network storage, etc - these all take a lot of development time, testing, etc. They don't have anywhere near the installed user base in radio, television and film and those users have different needs than your home studio owner. You said it yourself (which I highlighted in bold) - not everyone needs DSP, but it's still a factor in our development and, when determining how to maximize development costs - especially in a weak economy, all of these things are major factors. |
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Yep, all the "PT9 was just out....it's too expensive for x features" b*tching is about gone the INSTANT Avid makes a statement about PT11 and pricing discounts. But here's why it likely can't happen: if the development costs aren't off-set by a decent volume in HDX hardware sales/refreshes in the next few quarters, there is NO incentive to lower PT10 stand-alone upgrade-pricing, or even keep them in the PT10 price range next year (assuming next year IS when PT11 comes....plug-in manufacture adoption of AAX is key to that, I imagine). Sure, there will be a discount of some kind, but a lot of people just fear it will be pretty high given PT11's ambitious changes coming. But yes, a statement about PT11 pricing from Avid would stop the b*tching & boost PT10 buy-in from small shops/hobbyist niche areas, something they don't really need this round. In fact, there's every incentive in PT11 to RAISE the Upgrade price to around $400, and straight "software only" price in the $799 neighborhood, if hardware sales are lackluster the next few quarters. They have to make money, and the hobbyist/home-studio community's only hope will be massive buy-in from the pro shops. Their revenue likely subsidizes PT stand-alone pricing, to some degree.
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So you're holding back the native version so the guys who spent the most don't get upset. That's your perogative, but that's a marketing excuse, not a reason based on technology. |
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Umm well this will cost you half of the update and you will get 64bit...freeze tracks...unlimited instrument tracks. http://www.steinberg.net/en/products...hy_cubase.html Heck Reaper has all these things and its like 60 bucks. Avid do you not know your competition? Your way over pricing yourselfs and not giving us what has been out for years now. I want 5 minutes alone with Avids board of directors, in a sound proof room... my voice would be so hoarse. Heck there is more talk on here about PT11 than PT10...why? PT11 is all that anyone cares about, because it turns out PT10 is garbage. I've worked with Pro Tools a long time and work very efficiently in it, this is the only reason I stay with it. Avid knows this about most of its customers and that is why it has a $1000 price tag for crap. Because we care more about stability than minimal features attached with PT10. When PT14 comes out with 64(It won't be 11 or 12 or 13, they will keep selling us crap) then the price will be astronomical. It won' just be 299 for PT and $1000 for HD. Avid is screwing all of us. Give me unlimited instrument tracks...how hard is it??? Stop suppressing just for the sake of suppressing. No other DAW does this. And STOP charging me for what I've already paid for. You put a fader on a region and give me the ability to load to soundcloud and ask for a GRAND? Get real.
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