Time adjuster, delay comp question

[necjamc]

Just curious, here's the scenario:

I am recording drums from BFD midi to audio tracks, each drum, cymbal into separate tracks to edit eq, comp, etc. Should I use or do I need to use time adjuster or nudge the audio tracks back to compensate for any delay in the instrument track. It's late and I'm tired so I may be missing something here.

In other words will the audio tracks be ahead of time because of delay from the Instrument track.

Clear as mud. Right.

[necjamc]

Nothing? To clarify I want to make sure the audio I record from BFD is exactly in time with the midi file. So the rest of my session is in time with the click etc.

[necjamc]

Maybe it's a dumb question, now I will have to put my brain in gear, I must be thinking too much. Still any insight would be nice

[Shatzer]

Can't you just open a track with BFD on it and route the kit pieces to different tracks? I'm not sure with BFD but Steven Slate Drums (using Kontakt) will do this. I never have to nudge or anything.

[necjamc]

That is what i am doing, but my thought is this, is the audio FROM the instrument track delayed at all as it's inputed to a audio track. If I put a compression insert say on the VI track it will add latency. Is that latency carried over to the audio or is it entirely playback only. I hope my thinking makes sense

[Shatzer]

With SSD (again, not familiar with BFD) I leave the kick drum on the instrument track that has SSD on it. Then i send all of the other instruments via AUX Tracks not audio tracks. So AUX 1 will have snare, AUX 2 Hi-tom, etc... then i can place effects on whatever without any delay. Depending on your computer then it should just be playback if anything.

[emorganproductions]

is the midi quantized? if so, just zoom into the audio and make sure everything is starting right on the grid. if it's not just drag it back onto the grid.

Time adjuster won't help, it would just put the drums more behind the beat. you'd have to put time adjuster on everything other then the drums a delay them to match the drums (if of course the drum tracks are delayed in the first place)
much simpler to just make sure the drums fall on the bar lines

[necjamc]

Ok, that works. But If I bus anything (VI, audio etc) and let's say I have Eleven LE or a bunch of Inserts that add a lot of delaly to that track. If I record the bus will my record track have delay in respect to let's say the click track.
In BFD lite you can not buss out separate sounds, so I mute all but say Kick and record it to audio, then snare etc. Then I have soundreplacer should I want to change sounds later plus I find I have more control in my workflow.

long story short, sorry here I'm confusing myself, does PT record from a bus with any accumulated delay?

[necjamc]

Originally Posted by emorganproductions

is the midi quantized? if so, just zoom into the audio and make sure everything is starting right on the grid. if it's not just drag it back onto the grid.

Time adjuster won't help, it would just put the drums more behind the beat. you'd have to put time adjuster on everything other then the drums a delay them to match the drums (if of course the drum tracks are delayed in the first place)
much simpler to just make sure the drums fall on the bar lines

I meant putting it on everything else.

I didn't have a problem per se but I just wanted to make sure because I am doing the drums last.

[TOM@METRO]

If you use plug-ins with latency in the signal path while recording to an audio track, all latency will be seen as a delay on the receiving audio track. Either nudge the track to the grid or remove the offending plug-in