New Hackintosh / PT7 monster HD PCI Rig

[romik]

Originally Posted by CME

Maybe, but it's best to pick and choose. You'll have a much better chance at a super stable system. Also some MB's are now shipping with a UEFI instead of a BIOS, I think mainly asus, which is very similar to how apples work. So they at least seem to be even more compatible.

So at the moment there isn't one for definite. So if I wanted to build an equivalent of this model http://store.apple.com/uk-business/configure/MD771B/A? how much would I save (approximately of course) by building a hackintosh?

[aaquilato]

Originally Posted by romik

So at the moment there isn't one for definite. So if I wanted to build an equivalent of this model http://store.apple.com/uk-business/configure/MD771B/A? how much would I save (approximately of course) by building a hackintosh?

I've read on this thread or another here on the DUC regarding Hacks that there is a company in Germany that will make you a fully functioning machine.
Tested and working.
I'd imagine it would cost less than a Mac or what would be the point.

[CME]

Originally Posted by romik

So at the moment there isn't one for definite. So if I wanted to build an equivalent of this model http://store.apple.com/uk-business/configure/MD771B/A? how much would I save (approximately of course) by building a hackintosh?

Well I've been eyeing the Asus Z9PE-D8 WS board. With it you can run two Xeon e5 procs. Which are available in 8-core models. So you could build a 16-core (32 virtual core) hack with it. Depending on what you already have, and what procs you get, it would cost $1000-$2000+ dollars. But it's based on procs that are better than what is in the "current" Mac pros. So you're actually getting more for less. There is at least one person on the tonymacx86 forum that has built one. I think he had some issues with internal audio. Not sure he got that fixed, but shouldn't be a problem for a pro tools rig.

[Dism]

Originally Posted by aaquilato

I've read on this thread or another here on the DUC regarding Hacks that there is a company in Germany that will make you a fully functioning machine.
Tested and working.
I'd imagine it would cost less than a Mac or what would be the point.

...Which is also illegal and they're bound to get themselves sued/shut down.

[aaquilato]

No it's not.
I know there has been a lot of conjecture about this on these forums.
As long as they purchase the OS from Apple they, you or I can put it in whatever machine we want. That is the law as it is written.

It's those who bootleg the OS who are breaking the law.

Apple opened Pandora's box when they decided to change their OS code and make it Intel friendly.

That's the long and short of it.

[Dism]

Originally Posted by aaquilato

No it's not.
I know there has been a lot of conjecture about this on these forums.
As long as they purchase the OS from Apple they, you or I can put it in whatever machine we want. That is the law as it is written.

It's those who bootleg the OS who are breaking the law.

Apple opened Pandora's box when they decided to change their OS code and make it Intel friendly.

That's the long and short of it.

Yes... but you cannot then SELL the machine with OSX on it. This represents copyright infringement. Apple has already had more than one company shut down because of this.

I run a Hackintosh myself, and am well aware that I'm not breaking any laws... but if I decided to build machines with OSX on them and sell them, I would be.

The only way you could skirt this, is if you built a computer ready for OSX, and then had the customer buy OSX separately for themselves and have them install it.

[CME]

Yep. I agree with DISM, although I do admit I'm no copyright law expert. I have read of at least one company basically disappearing after being sued by apple for selling hackintoshes.

[aaquilato]

Guys, you both seem to be missing the loophole.
I commission someone to build me a computer.
They sell me the OS I want to install in it as well as the DAW software or Video software. Whatever...
As long as they are licensed retail sellers of the products I purchase from them, etc, etc...
That's the way I see it. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
I built my own Hack and hopefully Apple won't be mad at me for saving a few thousand dollars.

[Dism]

Originally Posted by aaquilato

As long as they are licensed retail sellers of the products I purchase from them, etc, etc...

Right.

And Apple would NEVER license anyone to sell a system with OSX installed that isn't a Mac. Never.

Software licensing is a tricky business. In many cases, the original company (ie the License Holder) still owns the software and all of its rights, and only licenses you the right to use the software. Therefore, they have the right to revoke your license. You are not the "owner" of the software, but a "Licensee." (READ THE F***ING LICENSE AGREEMENT YOU CARELESSLY CLICK "AGREE" TO. )

Think of it this way...

You can buy a movie and watch it in your own home. You can put it on any device you wish, copy it as many times as you want, etc. But... if you put it on a movie projector in a park for a public viewing, you can definitely be arrested (remember the FBI warning at the beginning of the DVD?) You did not buy the "right" to publicly show or sell the movie, you only bought the right to view it for yourself. The same goes for software. You don't have the right to buy software and sell it for your own profit unless you purchase that right from the license holder.

Besides... if it were legal, why don't HP, Dell or any of the other big guys do it? They could easily undercut Apple with their own OSX systems.

Originally Posted by aaquilato

I built my own Hack and hopefully Apple won't be mad at me for saving a few thousand dollars.

I did, too... and believe me, they are.

About a year or two ago Apple filed a lawsuit with the supreme court because they wanted to make jailbreaking iPhones illegal, along with installing OSX on anything other than a Mac. Needless to say... it was thrown out as ridiculous. Once you buy something, it's yours to do with for your own purposes. If you modify it for means of selling to make a profit, that's a whole different legal area.

[fatcode]

This is the company that sells ready made hacks...

http://pearc.de/home-en

I wrote to them when planning my hack- I enquired about their experience with Pro Tools hacks - I was trying to find out what MOBO they use in their models but I never got a reply...

Building a hack close to the one I've build by myself costs about 500 euros more than purchasing the single items on Amazon - but note that I've also got the Jetway MOBO and a 1000 W modular PSU.

It takes time, but to learn to DIY a hack it's very rewarding (not just financially )


Jetway released BIOS 07 for the Q67 - time to check it out !